Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 856

Locke cole · 10-26-2011, 07:34 PM

That song really just seems to be the music to be set to Doomed John and Dead Vriska's little walk in the dreambubble.

Though, really, listening to it, all I can think of is The Lion King.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-26-2011, 07:55 PM

Ive jokingly seen (and presented!) quite a bit of evidence for Sollux being LE, but I think LE is his own character.

BitVyper · 10-26-2011, 08:02 PM

He is at the very least, a product of these two sessions, since his MO heavily involves the use of a servant that is entirely dependant on the Green Sun existing. Doc Scratch has also said that his march through paradox space is orderly and accounted for. That, to me, suggests that he is in a very long timeloop, and I suspect that this dual-session is both the beginning and end of it (as I've said before).

I don't know that you could really say anyone IS Lord English, although it's certainly possible someone will become him. However the repetition of "he is already here" while it has an obvious meaning (because of the way Lord English operates through time travel), also pretty heavily suggests that we've seen him in some way already.

mauve · 10-26-2011, 08:05 PM

John just seems completely unphazed that his sister is suddenly a dog-eared space witch riding atop a golden battleship and plucking entire worlds from the heavens without the slightest effort. Not even the usual John Derp-face at that revelation! I'm guessing he somehow already knew at this point, then?

POS Industries · 10-26-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mauve Mage

John just seems completely unphazed that his sister is suddenly a dog-eared space witch riding atop a golden battleship and plucking entire worlds from the heavens without the slightest effort. Not even the usual John Derp-face at that revelation! I'm guessing he somehow already knew at this point, then?

It's been a long, difficult birthday for poor John. I can't really imagine him being phased by much at all at this point.

BitVyper · 10-26-2011, 08:17 PM

He never seems that troubled by anything. I think part of it is how good he is at picking up on subtext, another part being his general openness to just about everything.

Arcanum · 10-26-2011, 08:23 PM

Well I'm sure after seeing Rose go Grimdark, dogtier Jade isn't that much crazier.

Although now that I think about it, John first saw Rose when she was sleeping, and then their first conversation in person was when she went Grimdark (if it can be called a conversation, heheh). And then he first saw Jade when she was dead (well her dreamself), and now their first conversation in person will be when she's dogtier . And then there's Doomed/Dead John and Vriska. Poor John just can't have a conversation with a normal girl.

Mr.Bookworm · 10-26-2011, 08:37 PM

My personal guess is that like many other things in Homestuck, Lord English is a self-fulfilling timey wimey ball shit thing. He enters the universe after it's destruction and proceeds from there, because he did not exist until the destruction of the universe or thereabouts.

If you take that wild guess as true, it's likely that the person who will be Lord English is one of the characters we've already seen in Homestuck, moving towards his or her destiny.

My personal guess is WV, as he still clearly has some role to play in the story left (I can't think of why PM dragged his body along if he didn't). The line of comments he makes towards Aradia's ancestor up until she meets him face to face, are, word for word, almost the exact same thing initially said to John. Either Hussie is just fucking with the fandom or there's something going on there.

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Originally Posted by Bitvyper

You know, if Lord English weren't basically confirmed male by Doc Scratch, I could actually see quite a few reasons to suspect Kanaya in some way at this point.

Doc Scratch also played the entire cast like a fiddle into causing the current mess. I don't think his word is trustworthy.

It is also quite possible that Scratch doesn't actually know that much about English. All we know is that English "employed" Scratch.

BitVyper · 10-26-2011, 08:41 PM

Yeah, I noticed that as well. WV runs into pretty much the same problems as everyone else though, so I can't seem him as being more or less likely a candidate.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-26-2011, 08:44 PM

Maybe WV is on a quest to destroy every universe to kill every occurrence of Jack Noir?

10-26-2011, 08:02 PM	#8553
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	He is at the very least, a product of these two sessions, since his MO heavily involves the use of a servant that is entirely dependant on the Green Sun existing. Doc Scratch has also said that his march through paradox space is orderly and accounted for. That, to me, suggests that he is in a very long timeloop, and I suspect that this dual-session is both the beginning and end of it (as I've said before). I don't know that you could really say anyone IS Lord English, although it's certainly possible someone will become him. However the repetition of "he is already here" while it has an obvious meaning (because of the way Lord English operates through time travel), also pretty heavily suggests that we've seen him in some way already. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

10-26-2011, 08:05 PM	#8554
mauve So Dreamy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Someplace magical Posts: 6,863	John just seems completely unphazed that his sister is suddenly a dog-eared space witch riding atop a golden battleship and plucking entire worlds from the heavens without the slightest effort. Not even the usual John Derp-face at that revelation! I'm guessing he somehow already knew at this point, then? __________________ Yoo Hoo!

10-26-2011, 08:17 PM	#8556
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	He never seems that troubled by anything. I think part of it is how good he is at picking up on subtext, another part being his general openness to just about everything. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

10-26-2011, 08:41 PM	#8559
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Yeah, I noticed that as well. WV runs into pretty much the same problems as everyone else though, so I can't seem him as being more or less likely a candidate. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

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10-26-2011, 07:55 PM	#8552
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Ive jokingly seen (and presented!) quite a bit of evidence for Sollux being LE, but I think LE is his own character.

10-26-2011, 08:23 PM	#8557
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Well I'm sure after seeing Rose go Grimdark, dogtier Jade isn't that much crazier. Although now that I think about it, John first saw Rose when she was sleeping, and then their first conversation in person was when she went Grimdark (if it can be called a conversation, heheh). And then he first saw Jade when she was dead (well her dreamself), and now their first conversation in person will be when she's dogtier . And then there's Doomed/Dead John and Vriska. Poor John just can't have a conversation with a normal girl.

10-26-2011, 08:44 PM	#8560
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Maybe WV is on a quest to destroy every universe to kill every occurrence of Jack Noir?