Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 869

Aldurin · 11-02-2011, 02:00 AM

Wow, that throws out my fedorafreak=LE theory. And it still drives me mad that Doc Scratch was never actually lying, but just leaving out most of the truth. I am still confused as fuck though.

POS Industries · 11-02-2011, 02:01 AM

He appears to be something of an amalgam of every evil manipulative force seen throughout the comic. Or, more accurately, every evil manipulative force seen throughout the comic is an extension of a part of him.

Lil' Cal is the voice of Lord English, Doc Scratch is his will, and Gamzee's religion is quite probably born from the legend of the demon heralded throughout Alternia's entire history by the Handmaid.

That's my educated guess, at least.

EDIT: ...Or the last sentence of this page provides a simpler explanation.

BitVyper · 11-02-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Viridis

What do you mean, Bit? He is clearly himself. Not either of those two you mentioned.

...I wonder if he knew.

Separate from that, I wonder if him wanting to die was true.

Edit: Talking with someone else who sees it Bit's way, and I think I understand what you mean, now. That another being came through using his body. Hm. I wasn't thinking that, but possible.

In this case we can see that the head is totally Cal's. Given the facts I already brought up with relation to Cal (nightmare of the Hero of Time, repaired by the Hero of Space), and that we already know these sessions created the Green Sun, which we can now say with relative certainty IS Lord English's power source, this seems to pretty much clinch that Lord English must also be born as a result of whatever ends up happening.

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EDIT: ...Or the last sentence of this page provides a simpler explanation.

Augh, that should have been obvious!

Edit: But yeah, I pretty much agree with you, POS. I think the REASON he's all of that is because he was created by these sessions. Of course, all the things that lead to it were caused by him.

Mr.Bookworm · 11-02-2011, 02:13 AM

Sooooooo.

Doc Scratch was being rather literal when he said he was the conduit through which Lord English would appear.

Hussie reducing Scratch to a doll was not a joke, but actually foreshadowing.

Judging by the effects we see, Lord English is a Green Sun entity (presumably getting Doc Scratch's powers), so destroying the Green Sun might actually still be on the table.

It looks like the piece of Cal inside of Scratch is Lord English. Cal was made by Gamzee, so presumably LE has some psychotic Gamzee in him as well.

Those "hooooonk" whisper-rasps were creepy as hell.

Not sure how I feel about what we've seen of LE so far. He's looking like an actual demon. Not quite what I was expecting after the insidiousness of his primary minion.

11/11/11 can't come soon enough.

POS Industries · 11-02-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BitVyper

But yeah, I pretty much agree with you, POS. I think the REASON he's all of that is because he was created by these sessions. Of course, all the things that lead to it were caused by him.

It just wouldn't be right if he weren't the living embodiment of a giant masturbatory paradox.

Aldurin · 11-02-2011, 02:16 AM

Now this makes me begin to wonder about Troll-universe Jack's survival, since he does have an item that may be very crucial later. Not to mention what other things he's looted from the Felt.

Now the question is, where (and when) does LE go first?

Mr.Bookworm · 11-02-2011, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldurin

Now this makes me begin to wonder about Troll-universe Jack's survival, since he does have an item that may be very crucial later. Not to mention what other things he's looted from the Felt.

Now the question is, where (and when) does LE go first?

Didn't Lord English tele-time-fuckery to pastfuture Alternia? He's presumably going to go have that conversation with the Handmaid we already saw.

Also the Green Sun apparently is not actually a real sun-like thing, as Doc Scratch's house seemed to be doing just fine floating in there. So Spades might have survived killing his universe.

POS Industries · 11-02-2011, 02:19 AM

Plus the Condesce has a very brief window of time to get her marching orders and get the fuck out of the universe entirely.

EDIT: Wait no fuck Lord English is BIG CAL.

**Revising Ocelot** · 11-02-2011, 06:39 AM

Swap tags are the future for spoilers.

Dracorion · 11-02-2011, 06:59 AM

I can't believe Doc Scratch seriously just hulked out.

And I know LE being a pirate is so going to come back to Vriska some way.

11-02-2011, 02:01 AM	#8682
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	He appears to be something of an amalgam of every evil manipulative force seen throughout the comic. Or, more accurately, every evil manipulative force seen throughout the comic is an extension of a part of him. Lil' Cal is the voice of Lord English, Doc Scratch is his will, and Gamzee's religion is quite probably born from the legend of the demon heralded throughout Alternia's entire history by the Handmaid. That's my educated guess, at least. EDIT: ...Or the last sentence of this page provides a simpler explanation. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

11-02-2011, 02:19 AM	#8688
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Plus the Condesce has a very brief window of time to get her marching orders and get the fuck out of the universe entirely. EDIT: Wait no fuck Lord English is BIG CAL. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

11-02-2011, 06:39 AM	#8689
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	Swap tags are the future for spoilers. __________________ magic sucks Last edited by Revising Ocelot; 11-02-2011 at 07:54 AM.

11-02-2011, 06:59 AM	#8690
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	I can't believe Doc Scratch seriously just hulked out. And I know LE being a pirate is so going to come back to Vriska some way. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

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11-02-2011, 02:00 AM	#8681
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	Wow, that throws out my fedorafreak=LE theory. And it still drives me mad that Doc Scratch was never actually lying, but just leaving out most of the truth. I am still confused as fuck though.

11-02-2011, 02:13 AM	#8684
Mr.Bookworm YYYEEEEEAAAAAAHHH Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,034	Sooooooo. Doc Scratch was being rather literal when he said he was the conduit through which Lord English would appear. Hussie reducing Scratch to a doll was not a joke, but actually foreshadowing. Judging by the effects we see, Lord English is a Green Sun entity (presumably getting Doc Scratch's powers), so destroying the Green Sun might actually still be on the table. It looks like the piece of Cal inside of Scratch is Lord English. Cal was made by Gamzee, so presumably LE has some psychotic Gamzee in him as well. Those "hooooonk" whisper-rasps were creepy as hell. Not sure how I feel about what we've seen of LE so far. He's looking like an actual demon. Not quite what I was expecting after the insidiousness of his primary minion. 11/11/11 can't come soon enough.

11-02-2011, 02:16 AM	#8686
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	Now this makes me begin to wonder about Troll-universe Jack's survival, since he does have an item that may be very crucial later. Not to mention what other things he's looted from the Felt. Now the question is, where (and when) does LE go first?