Homesuck: Vriska Rising

[Revising Ocelot]

STRIFE SPECIBI: 1/2 bottlekind.

[Aldurin]

Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

STRIFE SPECIBI: 1/2 bottlekind.

Scratched mom is DemoSeil? This makes more and less sense at the same time.

[Revising Ocelot]

I roll with the Frying Pan, myself.

Especially since the Demoman still drinks from it when you taunt.

[Locke cole]

Scottish Handshake, ye landlubbers!

[BitVyper]

What if Jane and Jake's prophesied child is Lord English? Maybe the Condesce has been trying to stop just that.

[rpgdemon]

Originally Posted by BitVyper

What if Jane and Jake's prophesied child is Lord English? Maybe the Condesce has been trying to stop just that.

Doesn't she work for him though?

[BitVyper]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Doesn't she work for him though?

By force, and being in another universe puts her beyond his immediate reach. Of course, that would be entirely according to his plan and end up causing the very thing she tried to prevent, but that's just how things are. She certainly would have every reason to hate him.

Of course, Nanna's story tells us that she was prophesied a son and a daughter who would save the world, which is obviously John and Jade (and further suggests that post-scratch Earth will somehow be saved).

However, Lord English as their son in this timeline suddenly seems really likely to me. Evidence from Nanna's story does contradict it somewhat though.

Edit: It would even explain why the Condesce is overtly trying to get her to play the game while also trying to kill her. Their relationship further mirrors the relationship between the Condesce and Feferi - that is, the Condesce would immediately have killed Feferi if not for Feferi's big powerful ally. She could be pushing English's agenda while covertly working against it in this timeline. Plus you've got the subliminal messages.

Of course this all plays into the plan. The Condesce can't know the full nature of the game. Even if she knows a little bit about it, she can't know things like that telling Jane to die is conducive to getting Jane into the god-tier.

It could have even been the same before. We don't know that her caste has any particular powers of prophesy, so it's likely she was instructed to bring about the births of John and Jade, and then purposely worked against that goal, which of course ensured the timeloop that would allow John and Jade to be born.

Edit: Geez, that even mirrors how Feferi got HER visions of the future, not from personal psychic power like with Sollux or Aradia, but through her link with a much more powerful being.

Edit: Alternately, it's also possible that LE is the son of Jake and someone who isn't Jane, and that by working to prevent the union of Jake and Jane, the Condesce ensures THAT version of things.

[Arcanum]

I'm still not seeing how Lord English being somebody's kid makes any sense in any way at all.

[BitVyper]

Obviously Lord English is a conglomerate of things. I think the son of Jake, and possibly Jane, is central to this.

Also hahaha @ Champion Christmas.

[Arcanum]

Well it seems like you're assuming the subliminal messages are directed solely at Jane. But the messages just seem like what the Condesce would do to a planet she made first contact with before sending word to her armies, essentially brainwash them into accepting extinction.