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Unread 08-25-2006, 12:25 AM   #1
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Default Scientists: Pluto is no longer a planet.

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"It could be argued that we are creating an umbrella called 'planet' under which the dwarf planets exist," she said, drawing laughter by waving a stuffed Pluto of Walt Disney fame beneath a real umbrella.
So...it turns out it was a good thing I never took astronomy...because it would of been lies.
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Unread 08-25-2006, 12:35 AM   #2
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Poor Pluto. EVERYTHING IT'S EVER KNOWN HAS BEEN A LIIIEEEEEE!!! It's gonna need sooo much counseling. But on the positive side, it's gone from being the dinkiest of the planets to being the king of the asteroids.
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Unread 08-25-2006, 01:08 AM   #3
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This totally throws off the mnemonic and tosses my entire world into a whirlwind of confusion and melancholy. How many planets do we have now? What happened to the warrior princess?
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Unread 08-25-2006, 01:11 AM   #4
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"Better to rule in hell...?"

Also, this ruins a (very minor) portion of my beloved Star Trek continuity...

It's interesting, but a little strange... I mean, I guess my problem isn't with designating pulto as somthing other than a planet, so much as it is with a lack of general knowledge of what-the-heck-else is out there besides 9 (8) planets and a star. Let's see some moons and orbiting astroids on those Solar system mobile you make in 5th grade with paper-mache'...
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I think that the problem was, as a matter of fact, that there are too many things out there. There's a definite possibility that with too broad a definition we'd end up with a solar system that'd make the one in Firefly look reasonable.

Besides how restrictive it is, I'm not sure I like the terms of this definition. Having a "dwarf planet" category for things which are described otherwise as "not being planets" feels very ackward.
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Unread 08-25-2006, 01:33 AM   #6
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Poor Pluto. EVERYTHING IT'S EVER KNOWN HAS BEEN A LIIIEEEEEE!!! It's gonna need sooo much counseling. But on the positive side, it's gone from being the dinkiest of the planets to being the king of the asteroids.
Incorrect. There is a Keiper belt object quite a bit further out than Pluto that is also larger.They called it 2003 UB313. Not to mention they seem to be creating an entirely new classification for Pluto like bodies.

All in all, this as been quite the month for astronomy and astrophysics. First they find direct evidence of dark matter. Then they go and demote a planet. Man I am such a science geek.
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Unread 08-25-2006, 01:51 AM   #7
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Personally, I'm glad they demoted Pluto. I was the kind of science dork who, in middle school, determined that Pluto really didn't deserve to be a planet then, and frankly what peeves me these days is that 60% of the population -- according to polls -- are actually pissed off at the scientists for making a totally objective desicion regarding whether Pluto deserved the classification or not.

I mean, here's the number one reason why most Americans are opposed to the empirically evident demotion of Pluto; because it wasn't what we were taught. Well, that's fine and dandy, right? Because science should always take a backseat to what we learned in our school classrooms, we'd never want progress to actually change the way we view our world.

What's next? After we discover a reasonable alternative to oil, will 60% of the American population go off and act all pissy because we were all taught to drive automobiles that consume gasoline?
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Unread 08-25-2006, 03:11 AM   #8
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Umm yes..........
That's already kind of happening isn't it? "Hybrids are girls cars"
"Oil is bad for the environment and costs a shitload""Hey everybody let's go buy 4wds!"


Ontopic:Pluto wasn't meant to be a planet anyway was it, didn't they screw up the size or something and think it was like Mars sized at first and that's why it was a planet? And on it's demotion, it never really seemed like a planet from what I heard about it in the first place, so meh.
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Unread 08-25-2006, 03:20 AM   #9
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Of course, this will set off a rampant demand from the public school systems, demanding up-to-date Science books, costing governments even more money, which they will happily wrench from taxpayer's wallets... hooray for science. [/sarcasm]

Personally, I would've rather kept Pluto. So it was what I was taught... so what? It was always kind of interesting looking at that one little oddity we had amongst our 9/10/8 planets. Even so, I guess it had to be done.
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Unread 08-25-2006, 06:59 AM   #10
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Here's a more in-depth look at how it is affecting schools:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...%2C%22pluto%22

Basically, they want to replace the end of the pneumonic (pizzas) with nachos for some strange reason. It also says it isn't because of Pluto's size, but because of the fact it hasn't cleared it's orbit, like all good planets should. But that leads to the question of the fact Uranus hasn't cleared its orbit of Pluto at certain points, like when Pluto is closer to the sun than it is...

And I swear I didn't read this before I wrote my last statement.
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