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Unread 07-23-2015, 06:00 PM   #1
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Movies You know what I loved about Age of Ultron

The thing I liked best about Avengers 2 is Ultron's plan is really stupid. It is such a wonderfully over complicated pointless mess of a plan. This is like Cobra Commander levels of convoluted and complete mismanagement of resources. In other words its a super villain plot

Spoilers ahead, all the warning you get. After I processed the movie for abit I thought about his plan and realized all the more efficient ways he had to kill people. Bioengineered super virus or nerve gas are both well within his ability to make. If he couldn't get the launch codes for nukes there was still nothing stopping him from breaking into a place, physically taking them and having his drones fly them to the target.

Then we get to his actual plan which again was pointless. The energy released from lifting up and slamming a huge chunk of earth into the planet is exactly the same as if you just detonated the fuel source on the ground.

This might sound like nitpicking but actually I love this. His plan wasn't about the most economical or reliable method of murdering humanity. He just really wanted to smash an asteroid into the planet. Thats ok, thats how super villains should be. Because if they aren't like that then writers can't justify them having a volcano lair in the shape of their head and I don't want to live in a world where comic book villains dont have skull fortresses that weep lava
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Unread 07-24-2015, 02:00 AM   #2
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The thing I didnt love about Age of Ultron was the part where the Hulk and Iron Man kill like a million like several thousand people in that one African City and suffer no repercussions ever and dont even seem to feel that bad about it when the movie's finally done.
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The thing I didnt love about Age of Ultron was the part where the Hulk and Iron Man kill like a million like several thousand people in that one African City and suffer no repercussions ever and dont even seem to feel that bad about it when the movie's finally done.
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Unread 07-24-2015, 09:41 AM   #4
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The thing I liked best about Avengers 2 is Ultron's plan is really stupid. It is such a wonderfully over complicated pointless mess of a plan. This is like Cobra Commander levels of convoluted and complete mismanagement of resources. In other words its a super villain plot

Spoilers ahead, all the warning you get. After I processed the movie for abit I thought about his plan and realized all the more efficient ways he had to kill people. Bioengineered super virus or nerve gas are both well within his ability to make. If he couldn't get the launch codes for nukes there was still nothing stopping him from breaking into a place, physically taking them and having his drones fly them to the target.

Then we get to his actual plan which again was pointless. The energy released from lifting up and slamming a huge chunk of earth into the planet is exactly the same as if you just detonated the fuel source on the ground.

This might sound like nitpicking but actually I love this. His plan wasn't about the most economical or reliable method of murdering humanity. He just really wanted to smash an asteroid into the planet. Thats ok, thats how super villains should be. Because if they aren't like that then writers can't justify them having a volcano lair in the shape of their head and I don't want to live in a world where comic book villains dont have skull fortresses that weep lava
It was rather fitting for someone who got off on just making thousands of new versions of himself for the sake of minor progressions
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He was about a fraction as threatening as he was in the cartoon I watched (Earth's Mightiest Heroes). At no point did it seem like he was succeeding in his plan.
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Unread 07-24-2015, 11:27 PM   #6
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Don't take this to mean I approved of this version of Ultron over all. I think I'd have prefered the hyperlogical emotionless Ultron. Just I liked the plan in and of itself. It didn't seem very Ultron-esque, not like something I'd expect a machine obsessed with order and propagation of machines to go with
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Why are you talking about Ironman all of a sudden? :P
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I actually went through half the movie thinking Ultron was voiced by Robert Downey Jr. before my mom recognized him as a dude from The Office.
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I don't know, I thought it was refreshing to see a robot who just wasn't all there instead of beep boop kill humans because logic.
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Unread 07-26-2015, 11:51 AM   #10
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I don't know, I thought it was refreshing to see a robot who just wasn't all there instead of beep boop kill humans because logic.
The odd thing is I'd have been fine with this if they kept Ultron being based on a human mind (which would obviously be Tony in this case) instead of based on an alien computer.

It was confusing from a screenwriting perspective because they changed two things but either one would have worked if they only did the one option. A very logical machine being logical because its based on an alien design, or being more human because its based on a human mind.

His similarities to Iron Man and almost irrational dislike of him doesn't make any sense given his origin and creation in this movie
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