Why I Like [insert gender] 2

[Dragonsbane]

I get a feeling the last thread wasn't finished when we reached page limit, so shall we carry on?

[Mashirosen]

Same warning applies about whiny jeremiads about "nice guys finish last", and linking to that damn stupid "ladder theory" page, but carry on.

[Crodevillian Team]

(Ergh- I'm sorry, Mashirosen. I feel the same way about that "nice guy" attitude as (I think!) you do. I'm sorry to step out of line, but I reaaallly wanted to lightly address why (I feel) that attitude is so pitiful. If this falls into the category of what you don't want this to develop into, I'll re-edit it- And describe my perfect woman. I have pictures and charts and graphs and self-composed symphonies and books and essays and TV shows to bring that to light with. Oh, how I pine. Where are ye, Cheetara? I am lost.)

the entire human race is made up of selfish bastards. I show interest and others benefit, then they leave me hanging when I have a problem...

I think it's sort of selfish to be angered by the fact that you've given out tons of love, but received none in return. If you hand out one hundred dollar bills on the streets, are you only doing it becase you expect to become a millionaire?

You shouldn't. That's why, like money, you need to exercise caution and judgment. If you don't like being a therapist, then stop letting people treat you like that. If you want to get something in return, then go to school and *become* a therapist. At least that way you'll be making money while you listen to people whine. And you get a neat couch.

I think it's great to treat women respectfully. Every single human on this planet deserves respect and consideration. However, when you start placing (women/men/anybody) on an outrageously high pedastal, you're going to be disappointed. This sounds mean-spirited, but some of you come off quite desperate and clingy. That can become annoying extraordinarily fast.

I've played female characters in online games; it's frustrating to be confronted, at every turn, with people who want to give you items, money, "the Sun and the Moon, the Heaven and the Stars," because they think it'll score them a date. That shows a lack of confidence. They think affections can be bought, and don't trust their own personality to win you over.

In that type of situation, people are surprised when you take them up on their offer and then bolt. (I've, er, never taken advantage. This is just what I heard from somebody from somewhere at sometime). What they fail to realize, though, is that when they set themselves up to be exploited, it'll eventually happen.

When you give-and-give-and-give only for the reason that you're expecting to get something back, you're giving for the wrong reasons.

I'm sure I was going somewhere with all of this... Right! I get a little frustrated when I hear people complain about their 'hopeless problems with the fair(er) sex' when it's somewhat obvious that the problem originates within themselves.

When you flop yourself at the heels of your love, carve their name into your cerebral cortex, wait by the phone all day for their call and pray to their statue at night, you're doing something wrong. That sort of constant attention grows wearisome (for all involved). I think the healthiest relationships are the ones where both partners can spend time alone, with friends, at separate places, etc., etc.

I'm not saying people must be jerks to 'succeed' in a relationship. What I'm saying is, there's a fine line between "pious worshipper" and "nice guy," and some people have trouble balancing the two, or recognizing where they stand. Unfortunately, people try way too hard, and only come off as clingy, desperate, and unconfident.

Those of you who stated that you're hopeless, that you've given up, that the whole world has made you the butt of some cosmic, relationship oriented joke, should reevaluate the ways in which you approach a relationship. Stop placing your partner light-years ahead of you. You both need to recognize that you're on equal footing. You need to respect yourself as much as your love. If you don't, you won't ever be happy.

[Dragonsbane]

Croteam, you have just earned my respect and admiration......that was really deep.

[RangerAidan]

Indeed, much sense made in that post. Seriously. Back on the lighter side, I've actually never had a girlfriend, so I can't truly identify with a lot of what ya'll were sayin' in the last thread. Girls seem like such a gift, I've just never taken the chance to enjoy them for more than companionship of the physical sort. What ahve I been doing with myself!?

[slightly aboveaverage man]

Really RA? That's hard to believe comming from an attractive man like yourself.

[Mashirosen]

That's A-OK, Croteam -- thank you for explaining exactly why the "nice guy" thing bugs, and for making me laugh with the Cheetara bit. :D

[IceStormGanon]

It's good to see other thoughtfull people on the internet.

I had a friend who was a really good guy to know. Stayed out of trouble and was fun to hang out with. He got a girlfriend and turned into one of those obessive types. Lost all contact with his friends, including me. I found out He eventually broke up with her, but it was too late by then. Hes a big druggie, his family kicked him out. I feel really sorry for him and angry at the same time. I know he got into the stuff because of the girl

[Wintermute]

i like the way girls smell. I am overcome with lust every time I get a whiff of girl.

[Minor Dizaster]

Originally Posted by Wintermute

i like the way girls smell. I am overcome with lust every time I get a whiff of girl.

It depends on what perfume they're wearing. I have a friend who's choice of perfume makes her smell like ass. I told her this, and she doesn't wear it anymore (thank God).

But back on topic, I like girls. Period. Not only do I like my female friends more than I like my male friends, but the look of them is more pleasing to look at. I'm not saying this in an "I don't wanna seem gay, so guys are ugly," way. No. I can definitely tell whether my male friends are attractive or not. I just think that girls have a much more pleasing appearance.

In a relationship, one must always maintain a perfect balance. You should be goofy sometimes, but know when to shut up. You should want to go places with them, but not bug them when they just wanna do stuff with their friends. You shouldn't pressure them into physical stuff, but I find that if you take it slow, they actually will enjoy it as much as you do, contrary to popular belief.

Ladies, you may or may not disagree with this, it's just how things work in my group of friends.