Brians Superman Post

Ten Thousand Bears · 07-28-2010, 05:20 AM

With respect, I don't think that the trailer depicts Dickhead Superman at all. It seems to me that Superman is drained from constant battles with Luthor but has become aware of Braniacs approach and the threat is represents. So, while the rest of the League holds off Luthor and the gang Superman tries deperately to recharge his powers via the Suns radiation (hence his ragged state). He seems aware of what's going on on Earth, but also knows Braniac is the bigger threat. Finally though, when he hears Diana's death scream he simply snaps and returns to confront Luthor. Hence the exile in space (why should Luthor know what he was up to) and the "you've lost everything" speech.

Ten Thousand Bears.

**Satan's Onion** · 07-28-2010, 06:05 AM

Hi and welcome to NPF! I think this post would probably be more appropriate for the "Brian's Projects" subforum (discussions about the front-page posts usually go there), so I'm gonna move it.

Professor Smarmiarty · 07-28-2010, 06:39 AM

I'mstill trying to work out- I think Flash is supposed to die in that explosion- fucking no way Flash can't outrun an explosion.

I'm more with Brian here, a rare occurence. Superman just wouldn't let people die- no matter if he thought he could go up, recharge and save more people. That's not Superman. He doesn't play numbers games- I have to choose between saving 100 people and 1 person so I'll save the 100- he saves EVERYONE. That is so very much a part of Superman's character that he would try to save everyone.
And also he's rocking it in space, he must have seen Braniac's spaceships that arrived at the end of the video. He's at full power in space, getting max radiation, why doesn't he just fly over and smash them up?

Bells · 07-28-2010, 07:58 AM

I too must jump the Bandwagon here. Actually, the whole "grimdark" take here doesn't rub right with me... maybe that's because i'm way more familiar with the Cartoon DC heroes than the comic ones, but i don't know... every hero on that Trailer seemed a bit out of Character or with power Below what you would expect.

and as far as superman goes, i always come back to this scene when i refer to what the guy really is all about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F...eature=related

Nikose Tyris · 07-28-2010, 08:16 AM

I'm actually siding with Ten Thousand Bears here- I got the same vibe when I was watching the video. Now, I'm more a Marvel Fan (Excepting Green Lantern) but it fit more then well enough in my eyes.

BitVyper · 07-28-2010, 08:23 AM

Ought to have just used the Kingdom Come explanation.

Kurosen · 07-28-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ten Thousand Bears

With respect, I don't think that the trailer depicts Dickhead Superman at all. It seems to me that Superman is drained from constant battles with Luthor but has become aware of Braniacs approach and the threat is represents.

Well, that's rather my point. Superman may "need" to recharge, but he wouldn't. He'd keep on fighting to the point of sacrificing himself if need be, but it probably wouldn't come to that because he's also super smart. He'd find a way to use his weakness to trick Luthor and/or Brainiac into making some stupid arrogant flub.

Basically, the problem is that the video shows a Superman who has clearly given up hope. That does not happen.

Having Superman dead before the trailer ever begins accomplishes everything they want for the narrative, but more efficiently, more intensely, and more consistently with respect to the larger legacy of the characters.

Bells · 07-28-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurosen

Having Superman dead before the trailer ever begins accomplishes everything they want for the narrative, but more efficiently, more intensely, and more consistently with respect to the larger legacy of the characters.

Actually that would also go along to validate the fact that the other heroes ended up dead too. I mean, Superman always plays out as a leader figure, and usually in any medium when he goes out things tend to fall apart...

krogothwolf · 07-28-2010, 10:36 AM

There is no way Batman would have been ambushed by Deathstroke like that and not been able to get out. And Joker would never have Killed batman in such a lameass way as a rocket launcher. And if they know Luther has a freak shield, why wouldn't he artilery the damn unshielded building he's standing on instead causing it to crumble?

Man, that sorta pissed me off now and not just about Lazy Superman, thoughwhy does he always fall for Kryptonite tricks?

POS Industries · 07-28-2010, 02:14 PM

From what I can tell, DCUO takes place on one of those crisis-prone infinite Earths where I guess everybody's a shitty version of the characters we know from whatever the regular DC continuity typically is on any given day.

07-28-2010, 05:20 AM	#1
Ten Thousand Bears Goomba Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 4	Brians Superman Post With respect, I don't think that the trailer depicts Dickhead Superman at all. It seems to me that Superman is drained from constant battles with Luthor but has become aware of Braniacs approach and the threat is represents. So, while the rest of the League holds off Luthor and the gang Superman tries deperately to recharge his powers via the Suns radiation (hence his ragged state). He seems aware of what's going on on Earth, but also knows Braniac is the bigger threat. Finally though, when he hears Diana's death scream he simply snaps and returns to confront Luthor. Hence the exile in space (why should Luthor know what he was up to) and the "you've lost everything" speech. Ten Thousand Bears.

07-28-2010, 06:05 AM	#2
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07-28-2010, 07:58 AM	#4
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	I too must jump the Bandwagon here. Actually, the whole "grimdark" take here doesn't rub right with me... maybe that's because i'm way more familiar with the Cartoon DC heroes than the comic ones, but i don't know... every hero on that Trailer seemed a bit out of Character or with power Below what you would expect. and as far as superman goes, i always come back to this scene when i refer to what the guy really is all about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo6F...eature=related __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

07-28-2010, 08:23 AM	#6
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Ought to have just used the Kingdom Come explanation. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here.

07-28-2010, 10:36 AM	#9
krogothwolf Fetched the Candy Cane! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary Posts: 4,278	There is no way Batman would have been ambushed by Deathstroke like that and not been able to get out. And Joker would never have Killed batman in such a lameass way as a rocket launcher. And if they know Luther has a freak shield, why wouldn't he artilery the damn unshielded building he's standing on instead causing it to crumble? Man, that sorta pissed me off now and not just about Lazy Superman, thoughwhy does he always fall for Kryptonite tricks? __________________ Knowledge is Power, Power is Knowledge ╔╦╦══╦══╦═╦══╦══╦╗╔╦╦╦╦══╦╗╔═╗ ║═╣╠═║╔╗║╔╣╔╗╠╗╔╣╚╝║║║║╔╗║║║═╣ ║║║╔╗╣╚╝║║║╚╝║║║║╔╗║║║║╚╝║╚╣╔╝ ╚╩╩╝╚╩══╩═╩══╝╚╝╚╝╚╩══╩══╩═╩╝

07-28-2010, 06:39 AM	#3
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	I'mstill trying to work out- I think Flash is supposed to die in that explosion- fucking no way Flash can't outrun an explosion. I'm more with Brian here, a rare occurence. Superman just wouldn't let people die- no matter if he thought he could go up, recharge and save more people. That's not Superman. He doesn't play numbers games- I have to choose between saving 100 people and 1 person so I'll save the 100- he saves EVERYONE. That is so very much a part of Superman's character that he would try to save everyone. And also he's rocking it in space, he must have seen Braniac's spaceships that arrived at the end of the video. He's at full power in space, getting max radiation, why doesn't he just fly over and smash them up?

07-28-2010, 02:14 PM	#10
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	From what I can tell, DCUO takes place on one of those crisis-prone infinite Earths where I guess everybody's a shitty version of the characters we know from whatever the regular DC continuity typically is on any given day. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.