"Phase Four: Successful" aka the "Thor" thread

The Sevenshot Kid · 05-06-2011, 08:59 PM

I just got back from seeing Thor and my only thought is that Marvel must have kidnapped a leprechaun cause they hit this ball right out of the park. There was not a single thing about this movie that detracted from the experience for me. I even saw this in 3-D and I forgot all about those stupid glasses.

This movie is better than Hulk, it's better than the Iron Man movies and that't because it does not shy away from it's comic book roots in the slightest. I didn't believe Kenneth Branagh when he said he had been a fan of the comic when he was younger but now I have no choice. Everything in this movie is lovingly adapted from the source material in a new and interesting sort of way that doesn't betray it's roots.

The cast is superb, the story is superb, the writing is great, and the effects are pitch perfect. Special mention has to be made of the performance Hiddleston gives as Loki. He portrayed a wildly complex character that he and Branagh had to have worked on together a lot to get right. This movie is unashamed of where it comes from and it has real weight when events unfold on screen.

Seeing how well this was done makes me worried about Captain America's potential (or lack thereof) of successfully following this film. You should see this movie even if you only have a passing interesting in movies in general.

Bells · 05-06-2011, 09:52 PM

The romantic subplot WAS rushed though and Thor's ability to see the error of it's ways was a bit "too fast", But this is all forgiven for what the movie is and everything it does right it does SUPER right, and the comedy was tuned to perfection in a way that i feel it should be used as a teaching tool in Cinema classes

The Sevenshot Kid · 05-06-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bells

The romantic subplot WAS rushed though and Thor's ability to see the error of it's ways was a bit "too fast", But this is all forgiven for what the movie is and everything it does right it does SUPER right, and the comedy was tuned to perfection in a way that i feel it should be used as a teaching tool in Cinema classes

I agree on some of those problems but the thing about the first issue you brought up is that they didn't try to sell you too hard so much as lay a realistic groundwork. And the second thing was forgiven because of how the character was portrayed. He wasn't trying to do the wrong thing but was just so wrapped up in himself until he hit that wake up point.

Although I did have a problem with the slanted camera angles. It bugged me quite a bit at first.

Mannix · 05-06-2011, 10:11 PM

I liked Iron Man 1 better than Thor. I'd say Thor was about on par with IM2, which still puts it way above the vast majority of other comic book movies.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 05-07-2011, 05:23 AM

Saw it about a week ago with a friend. The 3d didn't really do much for either of us to be honest, but the rest of the film was great all round. Special mention has to go to Idris Elba who played Heimdall. Out of all the secondary characters he was by far the most interesting and best played.

And the super not-so-secret after credits scene was interesting too, Cosmic Cube now in SHIELDS possession, hints possibly towards Thanos being the main villain in Avengers maybe?

Still really looking forward to Capt. America and Avengers now.

Amake · 05-07-2011, 09:24 AM

I didn't like that they gave Loki some kind of cockeyed humanoid motivation. He's all "I have to protect my people" and "The Aesir need a sense of consistency and security" (at which point by the way someone in the theater stage-whispered "He must have confused the Aesir with the Americans" (it was me (I said it (I regret nothing)))), which IMO is pretty weak for the God of mischief and betrayal and chaos. Also pretty weird how everyone's all surprised when he turns out to be evil. Good character and all, but it's like they were scared to write him as something other than human. Although they might not be supposed to be gods in this movie I think.

Other than that, I loved every moment without even recognizing any of the several favorite actors all over the place.

Interesting tidbit: Heimdall was chosen to guard the bridge because can see for a hundred leagues and hear the grass grow. And he has nine mothers.

The Sevenshot Kid · 05-07-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Invisible Queen

I didn't like that they gave Loki some kind of cockeyed humanoid motivation. He's all "I have to protect my people" and "The Aesir need a sense of consistency and security" (at which point by the way someone in the theater stage-whispered "He must have confused the Aesir with the Americans" (it was me (I said it (I regret nothing)))), which IMO is pretty weak for the God of mischief and betrayal and chaos. Also pretty weird how everyone's all surprised when he turns out to be evil. Good character and all, but it's like they were scared to write him as something other than human. Although they might not be supposed to be gods in this movie I think.

I think they were more concerned with creating a complex and interesting villain rather than a one-dimensional god of mischief.

Amake · 05-07-2011, 11:51 AM

You can see Loki written as a complex, interesting and relatable character that's still true to his mythical archetype in Sandman. One doesn't necessarily exclude the other.

BitVyper · 05-07-2011, 05:49 PM

Terrible film. Female lead was bland as fuck and all her interaction with Thor sucked, and everything she touched became cliched as hell. Thor and Heimdall were pretty rad, but all the other characters were meh at best, and the humans were mostly annoying. Story was not particularly interesting, and Thor's character arc (probably the best written part of the film) was rushed as all hell and not very believable. Visuals were nothing we haven't seen done more effectively before, but I did like Thor and Heimdall's costumes - the other gods, again, weren't that exciting. Thor's buddies were all walking cliches, but at least fairly likable ones. And uuugh, it was just not a very good movie at all.

I liked the fight in Jhotunheim, and I liked the whole bit with the Destroyer. Everything else just sucked. Mass produced Hollywood crap.

Edit: I did kind of like Loki's dad, but then they did almost nothing with him.

Marc v4.0 · 05-07-2011, 06:14 PM

I think someone here saw a different movie then the rest of us.

05-06-2011, 08:59 PM	#1
The Sevenshot Kid of Northwest Arizona Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,492	"Phase Four: Successful" aka the "Thor" thread I just got back from seeing Thor and my only thought is that Marvel must have kidnapped a leprechaun cause they hit this ball right out of the park. There was not a single thing about this movie that detracted from the experience for me. I even saw this in 3-D and I forgot all about those stupid glasses. This movie is better than Hulk, it's better than the Iron Man movies and that't because it does not shy away from it's comic book roots in the slightest. I didn't believe Kenneth Branagh when he said he had been a fan of the comic when he was younger but now I have no choice. Everything in this movie is lovingly adapted from the source material in a new and interesting sort of way that doesn't betray it's roots. The cast is superb, the story is superb, the writing is great, and the effects are pitch perfect. Special mention has to be made of the performance Hiddleston gives as Loki. He portrayed a wildly complex character that he and Branagh had to have worked on together a lot to get right. This movie is unashamed of where it comes from and it has real weight when events unfold on screen. Seeing how well this was done makes me worried about Captain America's potential (or lack thereof) of successfully following this film. You should see this movie even if you only have a passing interesting in movies in general.

05-06-2011, 09:52 PM	#2
Bells That's so PC of you Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In a Server-sided Dimension where time is meaningless Posts: 10,490	The romantic subplot WAS rushed though and Thor's ability to see the error of it's ways was a bit "too fast", But this is all forgiven for what the movie is and everything it does right it does SUPER right, and the comedy was tuned to perfection in a way that i feel it should be used as a teaching tool in Cinema classes __________________ *BELLS STORE : Clothes! You wear* them! Free US Shipping Subscription System? WTF?! Zazzle Black!**

05-06-2011, 10:11 PM	#4
Mannix Tenacious C Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 991	I liked Iron Man 1 better than Thor. I'd say Thor was about on par with IM2, which still puts it way above the vast majority of other comic book movies. __________________ Dangerous, mute lunatic.

05-07-2011, 09:24 AM	#6
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	I didn't like that they gave Loki some kind of cockeyed humanoid motivation. He's all "I have to protect my people" and "The Aesir need a sense of consistency and security" (at which point by the way someone in the theater stage-whispered "He must have confused the Aesir with the Americans" (it was me (I said it (I regret nothing)))), which IMO is pretty weak for the God of mischief and betrayal and chaos. Also pretty weird how everyone's all surprised when he turns out to be evil. Good character and all, but it's like they were scared to write him as something other than human. Although they might not be supposed to be gods in this movie I think. Other than that, I loved every moment without even recognizing any of the several favorite actors all over the place. Interesting tidbit: Heimdall was chosen to guard the bridge because can see for a hundred leagues and hear the grass grow. And he has nine mothers. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed

05-07-2011, 11:51 AM	#8
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	You can see Loki written as a complex, interesting and relatable character that's still true to his mythical archetype in Sandman. One doesn't necessarily exclude the other. __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed

05-07-2011, 05:49 PM	#9
BitVyper History's Strongest Dilettante Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Arcadia Posts: 6,662	Terrible film. Female lead was bland as fuck and all her interaction with Thor sucked, and everything she touched became cliched as hell. Thor and Heimdall were pretty rad, but all the other characters were meh at best, and the humans were mostly annoying. Story was not particularly interesting, and Thor's character arc (probably the best written part of the film) was rushed as all hell and not very believable. Visuals were nothing we haven't seen done more effectively before, but I did like Thor and Heimdall's costumes - the other gods, again, weren't that exciting. Thor's buddies were all walking cliches, but at least fairly likable ones. And uuugh, it was just not a very good movie at all. I liked the fight in Jhotunheim, and I liked the whole bit with the Destroyer. Everything else just sucked. Mass produced Hollywood crap. Edit: I did kind of like Loki's dad, but then they did almost nothing with him. __________________ "There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, and the sea is asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on, Ace; we've got work to do!" Awesome art be here. Last edited by BitVyper; 05-07-2011 at 05:58 PM.

05-07-2011, 06:14 PM	#10
Marc v4.0 Fight Me, Nerds Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,470	I think someone here saw a different movie then the rest of us. __________________