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Unread 10-10-2011, 02:48 PM   #1141
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Nikose is obviously continuing his trend of lying which started with misconstruing snakes actions. I would also like to point out Rpgdemon over pushed a lynch of me in an effort to stop a lynch wagon that was forming around Nikose.
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I just had an interesting thought. I was thinking about the different paths to victory for the town, mafia, and SK, and came to the realization that the SK is in serious trouble, and that he has most likely realized he's in serious trouble. Specifically, if Sifright and Karesh are telling the truth, then the only way for the SK to win is to get the town to lynch Karesh. If Karesh really is night invincible, the SK can't kill him. And if he's lying just a little bit and is a night bomb, the SK can't kill him and still win. If it ends up with just the SK and Karesh left at the end of the game, that'd end in a draw, I think.

So the SK has to convince the town to lynch Karesh. But there's no way the town is going to lynch such a powerful roleclaim without first checking its veracity by lynching Sifright. We've been over that ad nauseum, and if we were to lynch one of them, it'd definitely be Sifright, no question. (Not that I'm advocating that)

Unless the SK wants to take a huge gamble and try to target Karesh in the night, his only option, as far as I can see, is to kill Sifright, and hope with all his might that he was lying. Then the town will lynch Karesh next opportunity it gets.

The SK has two options. He can kill Sifright during the night, or try to get the town to do it during the day. During the night would make sense, but I can see the appeal it would have to the SK to try to get the town to lynch Sifright, so he doesn't have to use his kill on him.

There is one player whose actions fit my assessment of the SK: rpgdemon. I think it was Karesh who observed previously that rpgdemon has been pushing Sifright, because he desperately wants Sifright to be lying. That fits the profile of an SK who has realized that it's the only way for him to have a chance to win.

I know there's been speculation that the SK may try to help the town for the next couple nights, to weaken the mafia. But I really do think that if the SK survives this day, he's going to kill Sifright tonight. He needs to prove Sifright is lying to have a chance to win. And so I think, that while Nikose is almost certainly scummy - and if not the SK, almost certainly mafia - a single mafiate is less a threat today than the SK. We can kill Nikose tonight or tomorrow. I think we need to take down the SK.

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Unread 10-10-2011, 02:52 PM   #1142
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I would also like to point out Rpgdemon over pushed a lynch of me in an effort to stop a lynch wagon that was forming around Nikose.
No I didn't. I pointed out that you're scummy, because you're scummy. And because Nik is incredibly weird, and makes no sense why he seems to want us to lynch him.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 02:54 PM   #1143
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My list of scum, in no particular order:

-Ryandermander
-Bard
-Nik
-Sif
-Karesh
-Greed

Are all suspicious. Now for reals vanishing, since I have things that will occupy my full attention until 6:00 PM EST.

Edit: Nik is weird in his suspiciousness though.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 02:54 PM   #1144
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I'm sitting here at my desk at work, should be working. But I can't stop stewing on this. What if Gregness blocks rpgdemon tonight? If he is the SK, we'd see that the SK doesn't have a kill tonight, and so have some confirmation that rpgdemon is the SK tomorrow. Then we can decide whether or not to lynch him at that point, or keep pushing on the mafia. It would be just as effective at preventing another SK kill tonight as lynching rpgdemon would be (both would fail if rpgdemon is not the SK), and would allow us to continue aiming for mafia with our kills.

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Vote: Nikose Tyris
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Unread 10-10-2011, 02:57 PM   #1145
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I'm sitting here at my desk at work, should be working. But I can't stop stewing on this. What if Gregness blocks rpgdemon tonight? If he is the SK, we'd see that the SK doesn't have a kill tonight, and so have some confirmation that rpgdemon is the SK tomorrow. Then we can decide whether or not to lynch him at that point, or keep pushing on the mafia. It would be just as effective at preventing another SK kill tonight as lynching rpgdemon would be (both would fail if rpgdemon is not the SK), and would allow us to continue aiming for mafia with our kills.

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Vote: Nikose Tyris
I gotta agree.

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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:06 PM   #1146
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I'm sitting here at my desk at work, should be working. But I can't stop stewing on this. What if Gregness blocks rpgdemon tonight? If he is the SK, we'd see that the SK doesn't have a kill tonight, and so have some confirmation that rpgdemon is the SK tomorrow. Then we can decide whether or not to lynch him at that point, or keep pushing on the mafia. It would be just as effective at preventing another SK kill tonight as lynching rpgdemon would be (both would fail if rpgdemon is not the SK), and would allow us to continue aiming for mafia with our kills.

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Vote: Nikose Tyris

Well it's a good way to identify the SK so in that regard i've no problem with it.

Edit: Whether RPG is the sk I meant to say
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:08 PM   #1147
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Unless you really do think the SK will target mafia. If that's the case, we don't want to block him.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:16 PM   #1148
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I'm sitting here at my desk at work, should be working. But I can't stop stewing on this. What if Gregness blocks rpgdemon tonight? If he is the SK, we'd see that the SK doesn't have a kill tonight, and so have some confirmation that rpgdemon is the SK tomorrow. Then we can decide whether or not to lynch him at that point, or keep pushing on the mafia. It would be just as effective at preventing another SK kill tonight as lynching rpgdemon would be (both would fail if rpgdemon is not the SK), and would allow us to continue aiming for mafia with our kills.

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Vote: Nikose Tyris
I could get behind this plan. We vote Nikose today because he's our most obvious lead. If he turns up town then we know that greg was lying and the vig can kill him, if not, then we know greg was telling the truth and he can try roleblocking RPG, to try to ascertain his SK-ness and the vig can go after someone else.

AS for who the sk might go after, I really can't say, but I'd certainly feel safer if he was out of the way sooner rather than later.

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Might help if I actually

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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:18 PM   #1149
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Unless you really do think the SK will target mafia. If that's the case, we don't want to block him.
I think the SK will try. But there's no guarantee.
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Unread 10-10-2011, 03:22 PM   #1150
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