"I like the way you die, boy." - A thread for Django Unchained

[Lumenskir]

Sneaking in just under the wire* is the Movie of 2012, Tarantino's latest pop culture mashemup about the Western film genre, revenge, slavery, racism, and how awesome fake blood looks when it's splattered against white surfaces.

*Take that Zero Dark Thirty!**
**I'm sorry, I didn't mean it, just come out near me please.

So, anybody else manage to see this? Some thoughts:

-I'd put it comfortably at the Kill Bill level in Tarantino's filmography, and it was pretty much as ruthlessly entertaining as its revenge driven cousin.

-I think in a perfect world Samuel L. Jackson would win all the awards, but more realistically I see Leonardo Dicaprio having his day in the "actually getting hardware" spotlight (I think I read an article about actors striking out in main actor categories but getting deluges once they settled into juicy supporting roles).

-I love how in Kill Bill the human body was basically holding gallons and gallons of red water waiting to be shot out a hose at the sight of the slightest cut, while in Django the body is basically full of trash bags filled with amazingly goopy red syrup and each bullet hits with the force of a fifteen pound bowling ball dropped from a skyscraper.

-Seriously, there's a part in the penultimate shootout where a bad guy keeps getting shot that is one of the funniest things in cinema this year.

-Of course, the proto-Klan insufficient hood thing was also amazing. It was like the not-yet-written fifth best Key & Peele sketch.

-What's everyone's opinion on the "Probably not as happy as it seems" ending? I've read two/three theories (1) It was exactly as happy as presented, (2) Stephen's warning about slavers/white people chasing them down will eventually come true, or (3) Django died after the first huge shootout and everything that follows his castration is a Brazil-esque fantasy. I personally think (3) is most likely (just for how deliriously fantastical the whole dressage thing was after blowing up Candieland), but I can see a mix of (1) and (2) (where Django and Broomhilda make it North while fighting off those who want them dead).

-I'm kind of ashamed with myself that the whole Von Shaft -> Shaft thing had to be pointed out to me later.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Wait are you saying Zero Dark Thirty was the second best film of the year? Because if you are I can legit get you arrested for hate speech.
Also I don't like Tarantino but I do like Spaghetti Westerns- will I like this film.

[Kim]

I've heard it falls heavily within the Tarantino wheelhouse to the same extent as any of his other films, so probably not.

[Lumenskir]

Wait are you saying Zero Dark Thirty was the second best film of the year? Because if you are I can legit get you arrested for hate speech.

I'm saying I didn't get a chance to see it in 2012 so I don't know where it falls on my list (although based on how everyone I respect is talking about I'll probably like it a lot).

Also I don't like Tarantino but I do like Spaghetti Westerns- will I like this film.

I'm going to take the safe bet with 'no'.

I've heard it falls heavily within the Tarantino wheelhouse to the same extent as any of his other films, so probably not.

I dunno why, but this statement amuses me. The way I'm seeing it, I think it breaks down to "He is extra Tarantino-y in this movie, like every example of his movies."

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Those people you know who like Zero Dark Thirty- don't be friends with them anymore.
It is the most hateful bit of propaganda I've seen since Triumph of the Will- it glorifies torture, it demonises foreigners, it hides war crimes and it willfully distorts facts to make these points. It is not a film, it is a crime.

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

I'm saying I didn't get a chance to see it in 2012 so I don't know where it falls on my list (although based on how everyone I respect is talking about I'll probably like it a lot).

It's a movie that distorts the truth in an effort to make torture seem like an effective tool against so-called 'terrorists.'

Don't watch and support that bullshit. Even John McCain doesn't want you to, and this is one of the 2% of times when John McCain is 100% right.

EDIT: Goddamn it, I as ninja'd by Smarty?
...And we agree on someting?
Fuck.
I need to rethink this.
Okay Lumenskir, go see Zero Dark Thirty!!!

[Revising Ocelot]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

I dunno why, but this statement amuses me. The way I'm seeing it, I think it breaks down to "He is extra Tarantino-y in this movie, like every example of his movies."

Ugh. My father hates Tarantino and yet he really wanted to watch Inglourious Basterds over Christmas because WORLD WAR TWO FILM. It's already unbearable watching films with him that he likes.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Inglorious Bastards would have been a really good film if it was only the last 10 minutes.

[Lumenskir]

Those people you know who like Zero Dark Thirty- don't be friends with them anymore.
It is the most hateful bit of propaganda I've seen since Triumph of the Will- it glorifies torture, it demonises foreigners, it hides war crimes and it willfully distorts facts to make these points. It is not a film, it is a crime.

Stop! You're making the wait to see it even more unbearable!!

It's a movie that distorts the truth in an effort to make torture seem like an effective tool against so-called 'terrorists.'

Don't watch and support that bullshit. Even John McCain doesn't want you to, and this is one of the 2% of times when John McCain is 100% right.

How the fuck has everyone but me seen it already (((((

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

How the fuck has everyone but me seen it already (((((

I haven't, and I won't.