Mafia: Basic

[secretskull]

I just want to point out something. Known townies are in less danger of being night killed. The Vig won't kill them, and the mafia and SK prefer to try and find the doctor/detective, rather then kill a townie.
One more thing. TWG's plan would work better with the Reporter rather then with the Detective (I know this has been mentioned), but I feel that we should at least put it on hold for a while.

[Bailey]

votes

catlover20410 Alive 6
B_real_shadows Alive 6
CallmePrismatic Alive 7
secretskull Alive 15


So that's 2 for Mesden, 1 for B_Real, and 1 for Crazy Ben

[Silly Kitty]

Newb, I don't really get your vote post. It is a bit confusing.

The number before the name is their number in the game and the number after is the number of the person they are voting for? Maybe you could make it simpler...

[CallmePrismatic]

Originally Posted by secretskull

I just want to point out something. Known townies are in less danger of being night killed. The Vig won't kill them, and the mafia and SK prefer to try and find the doctor/detective, rather then kill a townie.
One more thing. TWG's plan would work better with the Reporter rather then with the Detective (I know this has been mentioned), but I feel that we should at least put it on hold for a while.

Wrong. Known townies get painted with a nice red target on their forehead. The SK is unaccountable for since (s)he just wants everyone dead, but the mafia knows it can't convince the town to lynch a known townie, so that townie will most likely be Nightkilled, unless the Doc wants to protect him/her every Night.

[DarthMauler64]

Well about the townies thing, both sides are kinda right. On the one hand the town won't lynch a know townie. On the other hand, the mafia would not want to hit the townie yet (save them for later), because they would rather eliminate roles. They mafia would almost always hit someone town aligned anyway, because there are only two non-mafia non-town roles.

Also, I am confused by the way you are posting votes Newb. Could you do it the old way? (Unless you have a reason or something)

I would also like to point out that Newb says "alive" at the end of each vote. This could mean there is a role where the dead can vote.

EDIT: Left out the word "only" (in bold) and it makes the sentence sound weird.

[The Wandering God]

Well, I can see why having the reporter investigate me would be preferable. Or anyone for that matter. I would just rather be known as innocent and high on the death list, than unknown and subject to lynching via my own stupidity or a mafia/SK plot.

But the SK would want known roles killed to, as again, it means more places for him/her to hide.

So, I'll ask that the BG and reporter both hit me tonight, so that way we don't have another repeat of the first night.

But I never did get a response about whether we should vote or not on what the various roles do. Any ideas? I realize the voting should only be implemented if as many people as possible vote, thus hopefully nullifying any mafia/sk interference.

As to who to vote to lynch right now...

Fuck, all I see is a bunch of hot air for everyone. Not any actual reasons to vote. People trying to make it seem like others are acting in a certain way.

No leads to really go on either.

But I really don't want to vote a no lynch, as I am of the opinion that would be bad.

Argggg.

Random voting is also bad. I will probably vote soon, but still not sure how that will go.

The Wandering God

[catlover20410]

My vote's still there?!

I thought for sure I undid that.

Unvote: Mesden

[Mesden]

Well, TWG, there are a few people with REAL suspicion casted against them. Those people happen to be me, CmP, B_real and Catlover. I'll run over the reasons.

I was accused for, of course, being to hasty to defend myself before any accusation on my history was made.

My defense was that it was forseeable enough to defend that early. Also, I was accused with being to rash to cast blame when I FoS'd B_real and compared his tactics to those of the past.

My defense was that an FoS isn't rash and comparing actions to past occurences is completely viable.

B_Real was casted suspicion on for voting for me so quickly and stating all of those reasons I previously mentioned. Seems my defense was well enough to prove me innocent in others eyes and B_real scummy as well.

Also, I believe CmP's reason was

Originally Posted by CallmePrismatic

You mentioned his name, so he apparently took that as an accusation or something.

b_real, I think you just overplayed your hand. Of the five people you listed, the ones that knowingly 'accused' you I mean, the general tone was asking you to explain your actions.

But now you think we've backed you into a corner, even though the majority of us were lounging around on the sofa while you sat under the endtable and threw packing peanuts at us. When one of us mentions that the peanut-throwing was a bit odd you suddenly freak out, run to the corner, and start babbling that we're to blame. That is not how an innocent person handles confrontation.

Vote: B_real_shadows. I've made my case, but like I've said, I can be swayed if you change your mentality from gibbering to reasonable.

Now, as far as CmP's suspicion goes, I'll quote what I stated.

Originally Posted by Mesden

Now, what occurs to me are two people. One, which I have already stated is B_Real. All the reasons are fairly obvious and I HOPE don't need repeating.

The other, which may come as a surprise from me, is CmP. At first, I thought well of him. But, in retrospect, I see his actions taking place off mine. Also, his influence matches and exceeds mine here and when pseudo working in my favor as he has, leads me to suspect that maybe he is trying to get a strong player(Me) to be friendly with him and take the brunt of the blow in case that B_Real is not mafia and is lynched.

Remember, just because he votes first doesn't mean a thing. Check Mafia SP. Neyo didn't vote first, but for all intents and purposes led the charge and voted later. Making him less conspicuous until pointed out (by me and Garud, the teaming cultists at that time) and later being found as a mafiate. Which in this case could happen to me, as I am not the first to vote and I have, for all intents and purposes, led the charge gainst B_Real.

I may judge my views a bit too much on past games, but these strategems have worked and slight variations on them could be equally as deadly. ESPECIALLY in the hands of a player such as CmP who is, without a doubt, powerful, well worded and influential among us.

Catlover's suspicion is obvious in his quick vote shifts. Seemingly off the first reaccusation without giving the person(Me) a chance to plead their case.

That's all so far. Atleast, that's what I've examined.

EDIT: Well, Catlover changed his vote again, it seems. Take that into account, of course. I WAS NINJA'D!

[P-Sleazy]

Fenris The current list of people left in the game stands like this

Originally Posted by Newbs first post

1 Supreme Edgemaster
2 Major_Blood
3 catlover20410
4 The_Wandering_God
5 DarthMauler64
6 Mesden
7 B_real_shadows
8 h4x.m4g3
9 Thundergod_Cid
10 POS_Industries
11 Grthwllms the Obvious Civilian
12 CallmePrismatic
13 FenrisWolf
14 Ecurt the Normal Civilian
15 CrazyBen
16 SithDarth
17 sk3l3t0n
18 Inbred Chocobo the Normal Civilian
19 Neyo the King the Normal Vigilante
20 Silly Kitty
21 The Wizard Who Did It
22 Ogianres
23 secretskull
24 Patrat the Insightful Reporter
25 Big Mac

Of these people I can only think of 3 that I havent seen around lately and they are Big Mac, Sk3l3t0n, and Supreme Edgemaster. I'd dig deeper to see when they've been posting around the forums but that might be seen as PM watching (I'm not invisible for a reason here) so I don't think I shall be doing that unless Newb says its ok to look at if they've been posting for the past few days. I'd probably check most of the people on the list to see if they've been absent during that 4 day period when the game started and the killings have been revealed.

And newb also says that "neither player" meaning that there's atleast 2 players who didnt send in their roles. But I also do realize that these could also lead towards the PO, VIG, Doc, and Reporter roles.

Edit: Hint Newb, that be a question asked publicly of you if I can check atleast into these 3's posting records for the past week.

[Silly Kitty]

No one asked for this but this is post count in the game thus far.

Mesden - 22
B_Real_Shadows - 12
CallMePrismatic - 11
Silly Kitty - 11
Newb - 10
Sithdarth - 9
The_Wandering_God - 8
Thundergod Cid - 7
Catlover20410 - 6
FenrisWolf - 6
secretskull - 5
DarthMauler64 - 4
Ecurt - 4
CrazyBen - 3
Ogianres - 3
Major_Blood - 3
h4x.m4g3 - 2
Patrat - 2
sk3L3t0n - 1
Supreme Edgemaster - 0
POS_Industries - 0
Big Mac - 0

We seem to have a lot of low posters.