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Unread 06-08-2006, 08:37 AM   #261
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Again, can somebody summarize what I should be defending myself against? Mesden says that I've been shadowing her (or somesuch) and using her as a cover to do my nefarious deeds, even though b_real still seems suspicous to me.

TWG still believes I voted for Mesden in all seriousness, even though, IN THE FIRST FREAKING POST, I stated it's joke quality and how everyone should treat it as a joke, and then when that apparently wasn't enough I linked to where I got the joke idea from and, according to TWG, I still made the vote for my nefarious goals because I'm 'too good for that'.

So, if I have to do something, I'll try and attack the NPF Mafia Players Club's sense of humor, or the seeming lack of it. Next time I'll borrow a lesson from Dave Barry and add humor subtitles for the comedy impaired.

As I see it, the only thing I'm being demonized about is the original fake Mesden vote and the subsequent snowfuck of mininterpreted intentions, so if it's the town's will to lynch me for a joke gone awry go ahead.
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Unread 06-08-2006, 08:47 AM   #262
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Again, can somebody summarize what I should be defending myself against? Mesden says that I've been shadowing her (or somesuch) and using her as a cover to do my nefarious deeds, even though b_real still seems suspicous to me.

TWG still believes I voted for Mesden in all seriousness, even though, IN THE FIRST FREAKING POST, I stated it's joke quality and how everyone should treat it as a joke, and then when that apparently wasn't enough I linked to where I got the joke idea from and, according to TWG, I still made the vote for my nefarious goals because I'm 'too good for that'.

So, if I have to do something, I'll try and attack the NPF Mafia Players Club's sense of humor, or the seeming lack of it. Next time I'll borrow a lesson from Dave Barry and add humor subtitles for the comedy impaired.

As I see it, the only thing I'm being demonized about is the original fake Mesden vote and the subsequent snowfuck of mininterpreted intentions, so if it's the town's will to lynch me for a joke gone awry go ahead.
Ya know, the example you cited, you specifically said, "People even started to vote for them when he wasn't in the game...". Maybe that's where you should have started the joke. (Then again, I think she's been in practically every one.)

You saw how in the very first game, a little RP completely snowballed. While this game has been around for a little while now, it's still relatively new even now.

You could just as easily have FoS'd her with the same intention. But you didn't. You voted.

But, attention was quickly diverted to B_real, and the only ones who were actually paying attention to you were me and Mesden. I wouldn't say you were that much of a focus to the town in general.

Honestly, I'm going to see what Mesden has to say and basically go along with whatever she says. Yes, I know she's not infallible, and that she could get a townie lynched, but I can trust that she isn't a threat.

I'll see how she reacts and respond accordingly.

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Unread 06-08-2006, 08:50 AM   #263
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CmP, this is the same deal with Catlover. A possible premade veil you made.

I'll break this down from my point of view.

Me: "Alright, I need to get the crap out of the way and make it hit the fan. *First player post*."

CmP: "Let's go through with the joke."

CmP: "Now let's take away the joke vote and get on her side just a bit."

TWG: "I've got a nagging suspicion on both of you. *States a few plausible reasons and decides he WILL vote for one of us*"

Me and CmP: *Defense*

Me: *Revealed townie!*

CmP: "*VEIL!*"

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As I see it, the only thing I'm being demonized about is the original fake Mesden vote and the subsequent snowfuck of mininterpreted intentions, so if it's the town's will to lynch me for a joke gone awry go ahead.
You're sticking to this a bit too much. I don't like how you went through with the joke, RAMPANTLY stated it's joke quality when it was OBVIOUS the can of worms it opened(ALONG with my own opened can just from the first post) and THEN after unvoting the joke you seem to be backing me on most things.

Namely the Anti B_Real front that I, without a doubt, started.

Honestly, were you foolhardy enough to think it would pass by as JUST a joke? And then you can't deny taking my side in a low profile manner. I'll go dig the posts back up if you REALLY want me to, but the B_Real situation in general states you were on my side at ONE point.

So, what do you make of this, CmP?


Edit: Wow, ninja'd by someone who wanted my take on the situation...Nice is all I have to say.
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Unread 06-08-2006, 09:45 AM   #264
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I'm going to FOS: CmP.

I believe that I can for sure trust Mesden now. Before, I didn't believe I could trust her because she could be both experienced and scum, but now I know she's experienced and townie. However, the fact that he keeps defending himself regarding the joke post is ridiculous. It was a joke post, and I don't think anyone should be suspicious about a joke post. Instead, I think that suspicion should be cast upon those who seemed to agree/take the joke post too seriously.
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Unread 06-08-2006, 10:54 AM   #265
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Of all the people who voted for catlover, the only one who could be a mafiate (IMO mind you) because of the "hey, I voted for a mafiate! I can't possibly be a mafiate" ploy(which hasn't even been used in this game...yet), would be Ogianres since he was the last to vote for Catlover and that was still before Mesden took her vote off me. And TWWDI who had a vote before Ogianres, if he AND Ogianres were mafiates, they could have easily swung the votes in my direction saving a fellow Mafiate with the votes tallying 7 for me and 6 for Catlover, again, BEFORE Mesden unvoted me. So I'll also point a FOS: Ogianres.
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Unread 06-08-2006, 11:10 AM   #266
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The "I voted for a mafiate and thus can't be a mafiate" defense is not one that I would use. First off, it is largely ineffective. Second, it just gets in the way of real logic. And being last to vote for someone doesn't mean a thing. And I could have voted for and swung it towards you, along with another person? Can I assume you are only saying me and TWWDI could do it just because we were the last to vote? If so, that is not a good reason. FOS: B_Real
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Unread 06-08-2006, 11:47 AM   #267
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Honestly, were you foolhardy enough to think it would pass by as JUST a joke?
Great, now I'm being demonized for NOT HAVING PRECOGNITION. But to answer your question, yes, I guess I was 'foolhardy', partly because I assumed the mafia crowd would take a joke at face value if somebody told them it was a joke and explained the joke. You want to know why I went through with the joke? Because as I said, it worked on another forum, and I 'foolhardly' thought it would work well here.

Now, onto the 'defending you'...wait a second, I'm getting deja vu...
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Again, I never wanted to look like I was defending Mes. In fact, it should be looked at as more self-preserving on my part, because I wasn't aware of the potential backlash that resulted from the joke; If I hadn't disuaded people from voting Mes then it might have snowballed too far and the vote trail would have lead back to me, even though I never meant for it to go that far. So, bottom line, Self-preservation.
So yeah, no defending going on.

So that leaves 'siding with you' and B_real to which I say...so what? Wow, we both thought that B_real was acting scummy, ZOMG I MUST BE SHADOWING U!!!11!! Do you want ME to dig up all of B_real's scummy points to show why I voted for him? Just because you were wary of him doesn't mean I was trying to appear like your little TW...I mean lackey. I gave him opportunities to prove his innocence, he shat them away with his paranoid ramblings about how 'We'd all be sorry'. If it's possible, two people can agree on something without one of them mimicing the other.

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Unread 06-08-2006, 12:04 PM   #268
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I don't really agree with voting for him over a joke. I did and still do think he is scummy but I don't want to vote over him just because of a joke. People are voting for hm because of a joke and they think he is copying Mes? Is that it. Am I missing more?
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Unread 06-08-2006, 12:05 PM   #269
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Great, now I'm being demonized for NOT HAVING PRECOGNITION. But to answer your question, yes, I guess I was 'foolhardy', partly because I assumed the mafia crowd would take a joke at face value if somebody told them it was a joke and explained the joke. You want to know why I went through with the joke? Because as I said, it worked on another forum, and I 'foolhardly' thought it would work well here.

Now, onto the 'defending you'...wait a second, I'm getting deja vu...

So yeah, no defending going on.

So that leaves 'siding with you' and B_real to which I say...so what? Wow, we both thought that B_real was acting scummy, ZOMG I MUST BE SHADOWING U!!!11!! Do you want ME to dig up all of B_real's scummy points to show why I voted for him? Just because you were wary of him doesn't mean I was trying to appear like your little TW...I mean lackey. I gave him opportunities to prove his innocence, he shat them away with his paranoid ramblings about how 'We'd all be sorry'. If it's possible, two people can agree on something without one of them mimicing the other.

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In addition, you also managed to completely ignore my earlier post.

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Unread 06-08-2006, 12:26 PM   #270
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In addition, you also managed to completely ignore my earlier post.

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