FF RP Discussion #whatever.

Krylo · 02-22-2004, 06:33 PM

Right, so discussion goes here instead of in the Omake...

Anyway... I figure only one of these plans is going to work, and it's going to depend on which plan goes off first. For instance... one way that Deamon may be banished is by closing the gate into the netherworld... but the hero party has not looked into that at all, and have been instead leaning toward technology and/or finding a better way... seeming as the gate thing was opened once already.

And, just because you can do something one way, doesn't mean you can't do it another way as well. For instance, I want to dig a hole. Now, I can use a spade, a shovel, a bull dozer, or a combination of any of those. I want to kill someone... I can use a gun, a sword, a knife, my bare hands, piano wire, etc. The same would go for defeating a demon, I would think... Ecurt may have ok'd multiple plans, because all of them sound like they would work... now it just depends on which one is carried out.

IHateMakingNames · 02-22-2004, 06:40 PM

Dezils invention would have to be the size of a small town to have the power to do whatever it is supposed to do to Deamon. And Deamon has spies everywhere, so he probably would not get to make it...

And your first plan wouldn't work.

Forever Zero · 02-22-2004, 06:46 PM

Maybe not, you don't know what the plan is once again, you just want to counter anything that could beat you. It is easy to do in secret in a place you cannot easily access, and it doesn't have to be massive and huge to work, it can be reasonably sized and still work.

IHateMakingNames · 02-22-2004, 06:51 PM

I am going to lose, I already know that. I am the villian in an RP of mainly good guys. I just don't want my loss to be by something you can carry around.

And I'm guessing there are probably flaws in your invention you don't realize anyway...,

Dante · 02-22-2004, 07:02 PM

I agree with IHMN here... if he dies, it should have some emaning to it. Not getting ganked from 3 miles away and the heroes chibi-dancing around Deamon's dead corpse.

Krylo · 02-22-2004, 07:09 PM

Aww... but I like the chibi-dance... and I don't think anyone wants something that's going to blast him out of nowhere without putting anyone at risk. All the current plans have to do with getting into a position where we can use things to their fullest... which would involve some actual fighting of Deamon and his hordes.

Zephie · 02-23-2004, 01:01 AM

I hate player vs. player fights. In my experience, RPs with player characters as villains (other than the GM/DM/SM/whatever the fudge you wanna call him/her) always end up with a battle near the end or in the middle that just turns into a totally disastrous affair with people at each other's throats because the villain's being a prick about selling shots. Don't you dare deny it, either, 'cause I even did it once or twice, but I ended up selling everything out in the interests of the thread. And IHMN, don't say you're not godmoding in this fashion, 'cause you certainly are. You're rejecting arguments so casually offhand for no other reason than you don't like that suggestion...so you just say, "Nope. Sorry."

I don't mean any offense or disrespect or to cause yet another argument (UUUUGH e_e), I'm just saying that this is gonna turn into a catastrophe by the time we get to the final boss (Dante or Daemon, it doesn't matter) simply because PC villains tend to be pricks about letting themselves take hits and die. I know personally, 'cause I've done this myself.

Just be careful, y'hear? This is a very sensitive subject.

Truce · 02-23-2004, 01:02 AM

True, true. There is no cheap way to win this battle, it'll have to be tough. Besides, something small enough to carry around you'd probably have to place on Deamon, and that would definately mean having to go through demons (I believe there'd be ten thousand of them, I can't remember exactly), not killing Deamon, and then planting it firmly on him before getting pulverized. Then you'd have to activate it.

I like the idea of multiple plans because, well, I'm guessing that they will probably want a back up plan. Nothing ever goes exactly as hoped for. If people disappear, we can change things. You know, like how Elyse, Luce, and Carolina have all disappeared.

Anyway...anyone know exactly where the characters are? I am not sure myself, so if you do, tell me (here or PM), or you can start the chapter up yourself.

IHateMakingNames · 02-23-2004, 01:32 AM

Yes, I am reacting to the plans with "Nope Sorry". I have already admited defeat, but it's not going to be a pathetic one. Edit - If you can just build some machine that can get past every type of way Deamon can escape from where ever, something extremely bad better happen to the good guys.

And maybe if Ecurt would just make up his own way instead of letting the players choose (Which is causing this), then no one can argue (Complain yes, argue no)

Edit - kyrlo is in charge now, ask him. I have no idea at all really.

Edit 2 - Or, you can all do your plans, but if I find a plot hole in it, then it shall not work. And Deamon can do many things.

Krylo · 02-23-2004, 02:04 AM

I'm in charge? What? How? where? Heh... alright... they're in a secret tunnel below Preos and heading for an exit that would be opposite of the main gate. From there they're heading to the precursor place...

02-22-2004, 06:33 PM	#1
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	FF RP Discussion #whatever. Right, so discussion goes here instead of in the Omake... Anyway... I figure only one of these plans is going to work, and it's going to depend on which plan goes off first. For instance... one way that Deamon may be banished is by closing the gate into the netherworld... but the hero party has not looked into that at all, and have been instead leaning toward technology and/or finding a better way... seeming as the gate thing was opened once already. And, just because you can do something one way, doesn't mean you can't do it another way as well. For instance, I want to dig a hole. Now, I can use a spade, a shovel, a bull dozer, or a combination of any of those. I want to kill someone... I can use a gun, a sword, a knife, my bare hands, piano wire, etc. The same would go for defeating a demon, I would think... Ecurt may have ok'd multiple plans, because all of them sound like they would work... now it just depends on which one is carried out. __________________ I am very tired.

02-22-2004, 06:40 PM	#2
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	Dezils invention would have to be the size of a small town to have the power to do whatever it is supposed to do to Deamon. And Deamon has spies everywhere, so he probably would not get to make it... And your first plan wouldn't work. __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi

02-22-2004, 06:46 PM	#3
Forever Zero Saint of Stats Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 5,646	Maybe not, you don't know what the plan is once again, you just want to counter anything that could beat you. It is easy to do in secret in a place you cannot easily access, and it doesn't have to be massive and huge to work, it can be reasonably sized and still work. __________________ "For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast, And breathed in the face of the foe as he pass'd; And the eyes of the sleepers wax'd deadly and chill, And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!" - The Destruction of Sennacherib

02-22-2004, 06:51 PM	#4
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	I am going to lose, I already know that. I am the villian in an RP of mainly good guys. I just don't want my loss to be by something you can carry around. And I'm guessing there are probably flaws in your invention you don't realize anyway..., __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi

02-22-2004, 07:09 PM	#6
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Aww... but I like the chibi-dance... and I don't think anyone wants something that's going to blast him out of nowhere without putting anyone at risk. All the current plans have to do with getting into a position where we can use things to their fullest... which would involve some actual fighting of Deamon and his hordes. __________________ I am very tired.

02-22-2004, 07:02 PM	#5
Dante Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Crushing the weak beneath the iron jackboots of tyranny Posts: 7,703	I agree with IHMN here... if he dies, it should have some emaning to it. Not getting ganked from 3 miles away and the heroes chibi-dancing around Deamon's dead corpse.

02-23-2004, 01:01 AM	#7
Zephie The Playwright Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 1,191	I hate player vs. player fights. In my experience, RPs with player characters as villains (other than the GM/DM/SM/whatever the fudge you wanna call him/her) always end up with a battle near the end or in the middle that just turns into a totally disastrous affair with people at each other's throats because the villain's being a prick about selling shots. Don't you dare deny it, either, 'cause I even did it once or twice, but I ended up selling everything out in the interests of the thread. And IHMN, don't say you're not godmoding in this fashion, 'cause you certainly are. You're rejecting arguments so casually offhand for no other reason than you don't like that suggestion...so you just say, "Nope. Sorry." I don't mean any offense or disrespect or to cause yet another argument (UUUUGH e_e), I'm just saying that this is gonna turn into a catastrophe by the time we get to the final boss (Dante or Daemon, it doesn't matter) simply because PC villains tend to be pricks about letting themselves take hits and die. I know personally, 'cause I've done this myself. Just be careful, y'hear? This is a very sensitive subject. __________________ Burns inside with a heart like a Hole / A Naked Machine with a Busted Soul Last edited by Zephir; 02-23-2004 at 01:04 AM.

02-23-2004, 01:02 AM	#8
Truce Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,856	True, true. There is no cheap way to win this battle, it'll have to be tough. Besides, something small enough to carry around you'd probably have to place on Deamon, and that would definately mean having to go through demons (I believe there'd be ten thousand of them, I can't remember exactly), not killing Deamon, and then planting it firmly on him before getting pulverized. Then you'd have to activate it. I like the idea of multiple plans because, well, I'm guessing that they will probably want a back up plan. Nothing ever goes exactly as hoped for. If people disappear, we can change things. You know, like how Elyse, Luce, and Carolina have all disappeared. Anyway...anyone know exactly where the characters are? I am not sure myself, so if you do, tell me (here or PM), or you can start the chapter up yourself.

02-23-2004, 01:32 AM	#9
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	Yes, I am reacting to the plans with "Nope Sorry". I have already admited defeat, but it's not going to be a pathetic one. Edit - If you can just build some machine that can get past every type of way Deamon can escape from where ever, something extremely bad better happen to the good guys. And maybe if Ecurt would just make up his own way instead of letting the players choose (Which is causing this), then no one can argue (Complain yes, argue no) Edit - kyrlo is in charge now, ask him. I have no idea at all really. Edit 2 - Or, you can all do your plans, but if I find a plot hole in it, then it shall not work. And Deamon can do many things. __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi Last edited by IHateMakingNames; 02-23-2004 at 01:46 AM.

02-23-2004, 02:04 AM	#10
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	I'm in charge? What? How? where? Heh... alright... they're in a secret tunnel below Preos and heading for an exit that would be opposite of the main gate. From there they're heading to the precursor place... __________________ I am very tired.