Unknown Mafia: The Second Coming of The Kneumatic Pnight: Part Deux: The Actual Game - Page 27

POS Industries · 05-29-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sithdarth

Or, and here is a shocker, KP is purposefully misleading us with the death post.

He's not.

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Originally Posted by KP

And with industrious precision, the body of Mesden, White Magus fell silently limp

Roleclaim: Vigilante

I killed Mesden and IC. Mesden because I mistakently thought she was being suspiciously quiet and IC because, after seeing the clue pointing towards myself, decided to investigate Ecurts "rumbling" hypothesis myself and killed IC. Both turned out to be town.

So, you can do one of two things. You can lynch me now and verify that I'm telling the truth, get some sense, and no lynch the next day, or you can no lynch now to verify if I and so many others are right, and then feel free to lynch the hell out of me the next day if I'm wrong.

I'll even vote for myself in that case.

Moogle0119 · 05-29-2007, 03:21 PM

So who's the other night killer then? If we can get the other person to speak up and one of you (POS and the other) are willing to prove for 100% certainty with a lynch that this is the truth I will definitely be on board for the no lynch the next day. Otherwise I'm still skeptical, albeit less so.

Edit: I already noticed as much and figured you were one of the killers too POS. With KP using words like "industrious precision" and "quiet and precise, like a machine". Ok, more so on the first death post but still it's an odd word to use industrious like that which is why I had my vote on you.

Sithdarth · 05-29-2007, 03:22 PM

Even if we do believe you that's only one of the two kills. There is no rule that says KP has to make death posts that inform us who is doing the killing. And it still feels so utterly stupid to have the way to win the game a no lynch vote. I mean I'm pretty sure he would say something to the effect of "That's just stupid." if someone suggested it to him.

Bailey · 05-29-2007, 03:26 PM

Well, if we don't lynch anybody AND both vigs don't kill anybody... then he can't very well insist that the game continue wit nobody dying, can he?

Moogle0119 · 05-29-2007, 03:27 PM

The other vig/sk whatever still needs to step forth and roleclaim. At this point I do fully believe POS is the first killer but if we are to believe your theories then what's to stop the other killer from killing unless they openly declare as such and we prove it somehow?

Sithdarth · 05-29-2007, 03:32 PM

I do believe if you were right and the Vigs simply refused to kill anyone KP would either reassign the roles or start killing people at random anyway. I suggest both vigs, if that is what is going on, reveal themselves and then kill each other at night. Then if we 'win' or kills stop happening at night then we know you were right and we win, or rather win as much as KP is going to allow us to win.

Roy_D_Mylote · 05-29-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 42PETUNIAS

That really does make more sense than KP giving us a shot at winning. I say we wait two days, try a no lynch if we find nothing, and if that fails, curse at KP.

Yeah, and I'd be all for that, but except in two days, that's six kills at night and two by lynch, so that's eight right there, leaving 14 people left. Assume five mafia, that's not great. But if you vote no lynch now, then we test the hypothesis and lose two people while trying to verify that we're actually hunting someone.

Sithdarth · 05-29-2007, 03:37 PM

We could cut our losses to three if the other vig roleclaims and we pick a 3rd person to lynch. Then have the two vigs hit each other during the night. If it really is just two vigs then KP has no choice but to end the game. If it is not then we know within one night that we have mafiates to hunt.

Moogle0119 · 05-29-2007, 03:39 PM

Will the second killer please stand up?

The theory can't really be full-proof unless the second killer identifies themself, with reasonable proof as well and agrees to no more killing or the two night killers promise to off each other. Otherwise we're banking on the fact that the 2nd person will just listen to us and that's an assumption I'd rather not take.

Sithdarth · 05-29-2007, 03:41 PM

Well if Newb is truely a vig he won't know who to target unless the second vig comes forward. If the second killer refuses to come forward then we must assume they are evil or at the very least not on the same team as the town and thus the no lynch theory ceases to have any credibility.

05-29-2007, 03:21 PM	#262
Moogle0119 The REAL Lord of the Dance Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Narshe Caves Posts: 397	So who's the other night killer then? If we can get the other person to speak up and one of you (POS and the other) are willing to prove for 100% certainty with a lynch that this is the truth I will definitely be on board for the no lynch the next day. Otherwise I'm still skeptical, albeit less so. Edit: I already noticed as much and figured you were one of the killers too POS. With KP using words like "industrious precision" and "quiet and precise, like a machine". Ok, more so on the first death post but still it's an odd word to use industrious like that which is why I had my vote on you. Last edited by Moogle0119; 05-29-2007 at 03:24 PM.

05-29-2007, 03:22 PM	#263
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Even if we do believe you that's only one of the two kills. There is no rule that says KP has to make death posts that inform us who is doing the killing. And it still feels so utterly stupid to have the way to win the game a no lynch vote. I mean I'm pretty sure he would say something to the effect of "That's just stupid." if someone suggested it to him.

05-29-2007, 03:27 PM	#265
Moogle0119 The REAL Lord of the Dance Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Narshe Caves Posts: 397	The other vig/sk whatever still needs to step forth and roleclaim. At this point I do fully believe POS is the first killer but if we are to believe your theories then what's to stop the other killer from killing unless they openly declare as such and we prove it somehow?

05-29-2007, 03:32 PM	#266
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	I do believe if you were right and the Vigs simply refused to kill anyone KP would either reassign the roles or start killing people at random anyway. I suggest both vigs, if that is what is going on, reveal themselves and then kill each other at night. Then if we 'win' or kills stop happening at night then we know you were right and we win, or rather win as much as KP is going to allow us to win.

05-29-2007, 03:37 PM	#268
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	We could cut our losses to three if the other vig roleclaims and we pick a 3rd person to lynch. Then have the two vigs hit each other during the night. If it really is just two vigs then KP has no choice but to end the game. If it is not then we know within one night that we have mafiates to hunt.

05-29-2007, 03:39 PM	#269
Moogle0119 The REAL Lord of the Dance Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Narshe Caves Posts: 397	Will the second killer please stand up? The theory can't really be full-proof unless the second killer identifies themself, with reasonable proof as well and agrees to no more killing or the two night killers promise to off each other. Otherwise we're banking on the fact that the 2nd person will just listen to us and that's an assumption I'd rather not take.

05-29-2007, 03:41 PM	#270
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Well if Newb is truely a vig he won't know who to target unless the second vig comes forward. If the second killer refuses to come forward then we must assume they are evil or at the very least not on the same team as the town and thus the no lynch theory ceases to have any credibility.