Now the doctor wont even see me

[Aerozord]

Now I know the health care thing has been discussed, but something was brought to my attention the really crossed the line. I was informed that now the family physician will not see anyone without insurance. That means even if you have the money, you still cannot get treatment. So the only remaining option for a person without insurance, is the emergancy room. There are alot of illnesses that if treated early are nothing bad, but this now excludes that from even being an option.

I doubt I am the only one, and I doubt this hasn't been an issue before, I am not sure. But not even being able to get healthcare is a vastly more serious problem then just not being able to afford it. When you are outright denied even seeing a doctor, rather then worrying about poverty, you have to worry about staying alive

[Armake21truth]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Now I know the health care thing has been discussed, but something was brought to my attention the really crossed the line. I was informed that now the family physician will not see anyone without insurance. That means even if you have the money, you still cannot get treatment.

That's bullshit. Isn't it bad enough that we already need insurance to drive, even if we have financial responsibility, but now this? Hell I'm for universal healthcare now if only because it'll put these assholes out of business.

[Marelo]

I forget, does Obama have a stated universal healthcare system? Or was that just something that the far right conservatives made up in order to cry about socialism?

[Marc v4.0]

I believe he has a plan for unified healthcare of some kind, and they don't really need a reason to call his policies socialism, Facts and proof are silly.

[Zilla]

His plan that he outlined in the debates was something like the same healthcare pool Congress had would be made available to the public, so not really universal healthcare, but he wanted to make it more affordable.

[Aanaren]

Basically what Zilla said. Obama won't force anyone to pick up the healthcare plan (save you need to have coverage for children). If you already have insurance through your employer you won't be forced to switch, and employers who offer insurance coverage (particularly small businesses) will receive a tax credit. If you're a large corporation that doesn't offer an employee healthcare plan, you'll be required to pay into a fund to help pay for coverage for the uninsured. At least that's what he said during the debates at any rate.

[Aerozord]

I dont see that really helping though. Many companies have a horrible healthcare package, and there are ways around such things, like only offering it to full time employees but keeping most of your workers on part-time. Thus you are a company that offers it, but few actually get it.

Most healthcare packages neglect basic things like medicine, check-ups, and physicals.

[Preturbed]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Now I know the health care thing has been discussed, but something was brought to my attention the really crossed the line. I was informed that now the family physician will not see anyone without insurance. That means even if you have the money, you still cannot get treatment. So the only remaining option for a person without insurance, is the emergancy room. There are alot of illnesses that if treated early are nothing bad, but this now excludes that from even being an option.

I doubt I am the only one, and I doubt this hasn't been an issue before, I am not sure. But not even being able to get healthcare is a vastly more serious problem then just not being able to afford it. When you are outright denied even seeing a doctor, rather then worrying about poverty, you have to worry about staying alive

Go to a different doctor; plenty will treat you without insurance. Mine does. If that fails go to urgent care or the emergency room, you will get treated there. It's not just your doctor who does this, but there are plenty who don't.

[Osterbaum]

Maybe you just need to straighten out your whole health care -system.

I am not just bashing the USA here. Which other country has a similar system? I'm just saying that maybe, MAYBE, you just got it wrong to begin with? I'm not trying to provoke anything here, but conversation.

Ever tried different systems? That is a serious question. I am not familiar with the american health care systems history.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Preturbed

Go to a different doctor; plenty will treat you without insurance. Mine does. If that fails go to urgent care or the emergency room, you will get treated there. It's not just your doctor who does this, but there are plenty who don't.

so I'm supposed to go to the emergency room to get a sore throat checked out?

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

Maybe you just need to straighten out your whole health care -system.

I am not just bashing the USA here. Which other country has a similar system? I'm just saying that maybe, MAYBE, you just got it wrong to begin with? I'm not trying to provoke anything here, but conversation.

Ever tried different systems? That is a serious question. I am not familiar with the american health care systems history.

you would be hard pressed to find an american that actually thinks we have a good healthcare system, the division is on how to fix the problem. Most feel a universal healthcare would cost too much tax wise. Plus ultimately the american people have no say so. The politicians are the ones that really decide, all we can do is pressure them. But most can be satisfied with propaganda

For example people talk about taxes for healthcare taking money out of their paycheck, but they forget the company they work for already takes money out of their paycheck for healthcare. Or that you cant pick your doctor, ignoring the fact that if healthcare was universal every doctor would take it thus you can go to anyone you want.