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by Erika Lovley Wed Apr 15, 5:16 am ET

A little-known congressional power could help the federal government keep the Somali pirates in check — and possibly do it for a discount price.

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and a growing number of national security experts are calling on Congress to consider using letters of marque and reprisal, a power written into the Constitution that allows the United States to hire private citizens to keep international waters safe.

Used heavily during the Revolution and the War of 1812, letters of marque serve as official warrants from the government, allowing privateers to seize or destroy enemies, their loot and their vessels in exchange for bounty money.

The letters also require would-be thrill seekers to post a bond promising to abide by international rules of war.

In a YouTube video earlier this week, Paul suggested lawmakers consider issuing letters, which could relieve American naval ships from being the nation’s primary pirate responders — a free-market solution to make the high seas safer for cargo ships.

“I think if every potential pirate knew this would be the case, they would have second thoughts because they could probably be blown out of the water rather easily if those were the conditions,” Paul said.

Theoretically, hiring bounty hunters would also be a cheaper option.

National security experts estimate that this week’s ship captain rescue by Navy SEALs cost tens of millions, although a Navy spokesman says the military cannot confirm the exact cost of the mission.

Instead, privateers would be incentivized to patrol the ocean looking for key targets — and money would be paid only to the contractor who completed the job.

“If we have 100 American wanna-be Rambos patrolling the seas, it’s probably a good way of getting the job done,” said Competitive Enterprise Institute senior fellow and security expert Eli Lehrer. “Right now we have a Navy designed mostly to fight other navies. The weapons we have are all excellent, but they may not be the best ones to fight these kinds of pirates. The only cost under letters of marque would be some sort of bounty for the pirates.”

According to Senate historians, Congress hasn’t issued a letter of marquee since the War of 1812, but the Confederate States of America issued them during the Civil War to deliver supplies behind enemy lines. There are also some indications that a letter was granted to a flying band of armed civilians during World War II to operate the Resolute, a Goodyear Blimp used to patrol the ocean for enemy submarines, but the issuance isn’t apparent in the Congressional Record.

If Congress were to revisit the antiquated process, a serious makeover would be required.

In the past, privateers were allowed to keep the ship and treasure they captured in an enemy encounter.

“That isn’t a viable way of funding in today’s world,” said Lehrer. “These pirates don’t really have treasure chests, and their money is tied up in Swiss Bank accounts. Congress would probably have to attach sizable bounties to people.”

Bounties are not a new idea — there is still a $25 million bounty on Osama bin Laden, and millions have been awarded by the government for other enemy captures.



The U.S. State Department earlier this month put a $5 million bounty on the head of the top Pakistani Taliban leader, and even local police departments use rewards to solve cold cases.

University of Oregon economics professor Bill Harbaugh argues the setup could potentially work better than some of the United States’ relationships with modern-day security contractors.

“Obviously, this is somewhat like the contract the government had with Blackwater, except we forgot the bond part of the contract, he said. “If Congress had used this contract from 1776, it would have been more sophisticated than the one they issued with Blackwater.”

Harbaugh’s fifth great-grandfather, Silas Talbot, worked as an early privateer for the United States in 1780 after serving in the Revolutionary War. His letter of marque shows he set out with 12 carriage guns and a crew of 50 men to attack and seize cargo ships coming from Great Britain on the high seas.

Could it really work again?

“It may work in the sense that if you give people incentives to fight piracy, you’ll see more action taken against it,” said Andrew Grotto, a senior national security analyst with the Center for American Progress. “The ocean is huge and, practically speaking, there’s no way the Navy can prevent piracy; it’s too big. But just given the experience in Iraq with private contractors, that effort showcases the difficulties dealing with folks who aren’t answerable to anyone but shareholders.”

But Paul has already thought through a number of these updates.

Days after Sept. 11, Paul introduced legislation allowing President Bush to allow private citizens to go after Osama bin Laden and other identified terrorists and put a bounty price on the heads of targets responsible for the New York attacks. Contractors would also be required to post a play-by-the-rules bond and turn over any terrorists — and their seized property —to U.S. authorities.

“The Constitution gives Congress the power to issue letters of marque and reprisal when a precise declaration of war is impossible due to the vagueness of the enemy,” Paul wrote in a press release. “Once letters of marque and reprisal are issued, every terrorist is essentially a marked man.”

But national security experts and legal analysts warn that applying a colonial-era policy to a modern-day problem could be wrought with legal pitfalls that the Founding Fathers never encountered.

If bounty hunters chase pirates into territorial coastal waters or on to the shore of another country, the problem would fall under the jurisdiction of that country. And any plundering activity that takes place in coastal waters is no longer considered piracy, according to College of William and Mary national security law professor Linda Malone.

Not to mention that there’s also no clear indication where and how the captured pirates should be prosecuted.

“You have to find a stable court system nearby to have them tried for these offenses, but that can be quite complicated,” Malone said. “The fact that the pirates are from Somalia doesn’t make them state actors. They are doing this for private gain.”

And how to determine exactly who is a pirate — and what constitutes pirate activity — could get fuzzy.

“What happens when a ship flying under Congress accidentally takes out an aid ship bound for Somalia?” Grotto said. “At what time does an act seem pirate-like enough to cross the line? Do we really want these snap judgments being made on the fly in waters thousands of miles away from Washington? This is not Johnny Depp we’re dealing with.”


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In a recently released video from Ron Paul’s Campaign For Liberty Paul worries about the Somalia pirate situation and suggests using Letters of Marque and Reprisal as a solution.

In the video Paul suggests that the situation with the pirates now is similar to the way terrorists were prior to 9-11. He worries that these recent events may cause the U.S. to spend even more money on military interventionism overseas.

He offered the Letters of Marque and Reprisal solution back in 2002 as a response to the 9/11 attacks as well. Surprise! Ron Paul follows the Constitution again. Watch his video message below.

This is a time of need. Where jobs are hard to find and keep and income is scarce at best. For the man of the 21st century, there is little adventure left and little to conquer...

But now, we could be hunting pirates!

So, with a high speed boat and some of the destructive tools we can learn how to make on the Internet, i believe we could make one hell of a living off capturing pirates on dangerous high seas.

A home made Rail Gun, some Molotovs, maybe even a termite bomb or two ( I'm also considering a tesla-like device of sorts just for the coolz ) and we could take the weekends hunting pirates and collecting booty to purchase lightsaber replicas, transformers action figures and never to worry again about multiple good games coming out on the same month.

So, who wants to hunt some pirates?

...also... who has a boat?

[Bob The Mercenary]

I will proudly fly the red, white, and blue on my masts! This puts me in the mood to go play Seadogs or something. "I come here to request a letter of marque and place myself in service to the USA."

I think it's an awesome idea, but I can also see corruption rising quickly out of this. Like, deals with the pirates to keep some of the loot if they are let go. Still, great way to create jobs that people want.

[Kerensky287]

Originally Posted by Bells

So, who wants to hunt some pirates?

...also... who has a boat?

Who needs a boat when you've got an AIRSHIP? Hunt pirates in style!

...Also, who has an airship?

[Azisien]

Hm I might be down for this flying red and white on my mast, but blue? Might not be the contrast I go for, if you know what I mean!

Yarr.

This should help you Bells: http://www.puzzlepirates.com

[Melfice]

Funny enough, a Dutch minister, I think, has also volunteered a Dutch Navy cruiser (or really, if they can't spare anything, a PMC with naval power to sail under the Dutch crown) sail down there and bombard the shit out of anything that even remotely acts like a pirate.

I think there's also talk of a cooperation with the Brits, if I recall correctly.
Which really is a joke, if you consider the naval history of our two countries.

[Osterbaum]

The idea is ridiculous.

Not that I wouldn't go! We should buy a ship together and call it "Nuklear pirate bade" or something. I wanna be the spotter!

[Daimo Mac, The Blue Light of Hope]

As silly as this sounds, I would totally get on board with this.

[Flarecobra]

The Marines were in the past known for being quite skilled at taking down pirates.

I'm down if you need a marksman.

May even bring friends too.

[TDK]

Fuck yeah adventuring!

I volunteer so hard.

[Magus]

Since my initial reaction was "Kickass! Where do I sign up?" I assume this is a bad idea.