This is why noone talks to the mods.

Frogman · 09-24-2009, 10:33 PM

I was asked in the discussion forum after my unfortunate and inadvisable outburst why the five members that gave me the advice to never post in the Discussion thread, wouldn't come forward and make their concerns known. Well I have an answer, and answer that I hope many of you will get to read before it get's taken down, because a post like this one is going to be bad repo for the mods and admins here at NPF.

I was told that my comments were childish, and in an epic case of pot calling the kettle black, for a single infraction of apparently "Spamming" the phrase "Sweet you are all on my side for this one" or something along those lines, see I didn't realize that posting something ONCE, a declaration of elation counted as spamming. Next I'm accused, but not warned of dropping my website into every other post, as Melfice pointed out.

However for those who are somewhat neutral in the way their minds are wired and open for the facts that I apparently so blatantly ignore, then you will see that out of all the posts I've made, I mentions U-J this many times:

1. My introduction in 2006
2. The comic discussion thread in 2008
3. There was a U-J poster request for Rick Zarber's comic in 2008
4. Discussing a Mauve Mage comic in 2008
5. Explaining the development of Andy Frogman... where use of U-J is necessary to explain.
6. Finally I mentioned it at the end of the discussion thread about the kids killing a sheep.

That's 6 times over the space of 4 years. That's an average of 1 and a half times per year. That's less than 10% of my total posts. You want statistics you got them, there they are.

So you say I'm childish, you tell me that I don't back up my comments with accurate enough evidence. Well how about this one. Everything I said in that last post was fact.

The Admins with a high enough permission, CAN check your PMs. That's a fact, it's stupid to believe otherwise. Now admittedly they may not be able to click through the admin panel and select, look at PMs. No, but If this site is as good with the admin side as it claims to be, then they backup their database once a week. Shockingly PM's are stored on the databse, some forums encode the raw data but it's not hard to turn back into text. So if you have any PMs in your box when they back up, they have full access to it. However I never once said that they DO actually check, I said that if it were going to go bad and attempt to ban me or the people who contacted me, doing it through the PMs would be a waste of time, because it was not said to me on NPF. Does that mean the mods/Admins took a leap of logic here and come to a bad conclusion? you know 2+2=5? yes it does, they instantly took it badly and quoted my post out of context to make it look like I was accusing them of snooping. Until now I thought that the comments made to me by the five were like most "truth", there's a nugget of gold in the center but first I have to dig away through all the mud and over exaggeration.

Meister, bless him, he tried to be a good guy, he assured me that banning was not on the cards for me, and that I shouldn't worry about telling the mods how I feel about what's going on on the forums, he even said that he took my advice on certain ideas that I had concerning ending the use of locked threads by the mods, to make comments that the users being accused could not defend against. Yet look what's happened, FenrisWolf, Fifthfiend and Synk, have all done it, since I spoke to Meister. Hell look att he title of Synk's post. Can anyone else say bitch!?

If you have a problem with me at least have to fortitude to say something where I can defend myself you fucking cowards! That's all you are, cowards, hiding behind you computer screens and your admin/mod powers. You are nothing but a group of internet tough guys who have nothing better to do than troll members into an argument purely for the satisfaction of you banning them. Bunch of jackasses.

But what do you know, today I get told by another NPF member that the admins are over reacting and being childish. They logged in to discover that all the uses of the name of mywebsite had been replaced by BUTTSPRESSO. Very mature.

You see, this is the reason why no one comes to the mods. Because the mods are worse than the users. Ever heard the phrase, "Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely."?
For the most part you have no idea what it means to be moderators! I like to use the term Leaders in Service, as moderators and admins we are meant to lead the masses, show them the way that is acceptable to behave on the forum, and service the communities interest when a problem comes up. What happens then when the problem is the moderators. When you can't talk to them when their all high and might on their golden thrones in ivory towers! If anyone makes a comment that states that you should be acting like leaders, and not bitch slapping your scapegoat, yiou bitchslap them and make them your new scape goat. Which is whats happened to me.

I know I made a mistake in the Discussion thread, I even dared them to ban me, but they didn't instead they decide to be childish pricks, and you know what's worse. There are some of you out there who agree with me, but you won't stand up and be counted because your afraid. You are afraid to stand up against these ass holes in fear of being banned. Why? Is this place really all that good? If you have to fear about what you say or do, then the answer is no. If you are afraid to have your say heard, if you are afraid to have a differing opinion to a moderator and get subsequently banned, then you are VOTING for a DICTATORSHIP! You are wilfully forgoing your rights to freedom.

What's even worse, this thread will be locked before anyone has the chance to respond, it'll probably even be deleted before many of you get the chance to read it. There is a reason for that, because this website is nothing without it's members, same with any site. The more members that join the more power the mods have, because they have power over more people. However if this site were to loose all it's members, God forbid, then the moderators will have noone under them, they will have no power, and for the most part they are relaxed, content in knowing that there will always be at least one person they can push around, otherwise they would respect the members a hell of a lot more.

Rules are there to make things better. Rules are not designed to spoil someone's fun, they are designed to control the outlet of that fun and direct it in a creative way that can be enjoyed by all. This forum, the rules are there strict for the new members, can be bent for the longer lasting members and are the plaything of the moderators. They use the rules as it suits them. As pointed out above, using locked threads to harass members. Members like me who realise that in the real world these people have no power, and that's why they covet it so much here.

You are worthless, pointless, a waste of air, and by the time you get around to posting something here, or locking the thread, making sure no one else can have their say on this matter, you will all be nothing more than the shadow of a memory.

Of course I'm not expecting a real reply to this from the mods, they have no real way of defending themselves aside from slander and libel, belittling anything that they disagree with with sarcasm and insult. If you actually have a working mind. They are childish like that.

BUTTSPESSO... seriously, that's the kinda thing a 6 year old would find immature.

Bye, kindly go to hell...

bluestarultor · 09-24-2009, 10:40 PM

Methinks you're not getting the unique humor we have around here. Smarty McBarrelpants didn't start out with that name. On the other hand, he was able to laugh it off.

No, NPF isn't the most mature place, but that's part of what makes it NPF. The mods do do some crazy stuff, but there's a humor to it. If they really had it out for you, you would be banned.

Frogman · 09-24-2009, 10:46 PM

Attempt to justify it if you must.

Kim · 09-24-2009, 10:46 PM

"I didn't pay attention to the rules of the discussion forum and got infracted."

Imagine that...

Kepor · 09-24-2009, 10:48 PM

OK. So.

This is now the 'Are The Mods Out of Control?' thread.

Frogman, I think you're overreacting a bit. Remember that this is a sprite comic forum, so nothing here is to be taken seriously. Or at least not this seriously. That thread did get out of hand, but that happens with text-based communication. If there's something you really want to discuss, we can do that, just remember the difficulties in this kind of communication.

Frogman · 09-24-2009, 10:49 PM

That was mere luck that I cam across this. If you are smart you will avoid the obvious traps set to deter you from the point at hand. Thanks NonCon for proving my point. I would love to discuss stuff, but I'm not going to do it here.
After this post I'm not even going to bother defending myself, I've said all I need to.

Kim · 09-24-2009, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

Thanks NonCon for proving my point.

That complaining about getting in trouble when you break the rules is silly? I didn't know that was your point, but I'm glad I could help.

Quote:

After this post I'm not even going to bother defending myself, I've said all I need to.

The best part about this line is that you edited out of your previous post so you could defend yourself again, then edited it into this one. Delightful.

***Fenris*** · 09-24-2009, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

you are VOTING for a DICTATORSHIP!

Mo' like DICKtatorship, amirite?

POS Industries · 09-24-2009, 10:52 PM

Lost in Time · 09-24-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

After this post I'm not even going to bother defending myself, I've said all I need to.

You said that in the last post you made...?

Anyway, yeah, this place isn't for everyone. If you don't feel right being here, then don't be here, it's simple as that. Don't try to make everyone else here feel guilty for having fun here.

Edit: I hate all you guys for posting before me! I QUIT.

Double Edit: Hehe... buttspresso...

09-24-2009, 10:33 PM	#1
Frogman Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 62	This is why noone talks to the mods. I was asked in the discussion forum after my unfortunate and inadvisable outburst why the five members that gave me the advice to never post in the Discussion thread, wouldn't come forward and make their concerns known. Well I have an answer, and answer that I hope many of you will get to read before it get's taken down, because a post like this one is going to be bad repo for the mods and admins here at NPF. I was told that my comments were childish, and in an epic case of pot calling the kettle black, for a single infraction of apparently "Spamming" the phrase "Sweet you are all on my side for this one" or something along those lines, see I didn't realize that posting something ONCE, a declaration of elation counted as spamming. Next I'm accused, but not warned of dropping my website into every other post, as Melfice pointed out. However for those who are somewhat neutral in the way their minds are wired and open for the facts that I apparently so blatantly ignore, then you will see that out of all the posts I've made, I mentions U-J this many times: 1. My introduction in 2006 2. The comic discussion thread in 2008 3. There was a U-J poster request for Rick Zarber's comic in 2008 4. Discussing a Mauve Mage comic in 2008 5. Explaining the development of Andy Frogman... where use of U-J is necessary to explain. 6. Finally I mentioned it at the end of the discussion thread about the kids killing a sheep. That's 6 times over the space of 4 years. That's an average of 1 and a half times per year. That's less than 10% of my total posts. You want statistics you got them, there they are. So you say I'm childish, you tell me that I don't back up my comments with accurate enough evidence. Well how about this one. Everything I said in that last post was fact. The Admins with a high enough permission, CAN check your PMs. That's a fact, it's stupid to believe otherwise. Now admittedly they may not be able to click through the admin panel and select, look at PMs. No, but If this site is as good with the admin side as it claims to be, then they backup their database once a week. Shockingly PM's are stored on the databse, some forums encode the raw data but it's not hard to turn back into text. So if you have any PMs in your box when they back up, they have full access to it. However I never once said that they DO actually check, I said that if it were going to go bad and attempt to ban me or the people who contacted me, doing it through the PMs would be a waste of time, because it was not said to me on NPF. Does that mean the mods/Admins took a leap of logic here and come to a bad conclusion? you know 2+2=5? yes it does, they instantly took it badly and quoted my post out of context to make it look like I was accusing them of snooping. Until now I thought that the comments made to me by the five were like most "truth", there's a nugget of gold in the center but first I have to dig away through all the mud and over exaggeration. Meister, bless him, he tried to be a good guy, he assured me that banning was not on the cards for me, and that I shouldn't worry about telling the mods how I feel about what's going on on the forums, he even said that he took my advice on certain ideas that I had concerning ending the use of locked threads by the mods, to make comments that the users being accused could not defend against. Yet look what's happened, FenrisWolf, Fifthfiend and Synk, have all done it, since I spoke to Meister. Hell look att he title of Synk's post. Can anyone else say bitch!? If you have a problem with me at least have to fortitude to say something where I can defend myself you fucking cowards! That's all you are, cowards, hiding behind you computer screens and your admin/mod powers. You are nothing but a group of internet tough guys who have nothing better to do than troll members into an argument purely for the satisfaction of you banning them. Bunch of jackasses. But what do you know, today I get told by another NPF member that the admins are over reacting and being childish. They logged in to discover that all the uses of the name of mywebsite had been replaced by BUTTSPRESSO. Very mature. You see, this is the reason why no one comes to the mods. Because the mods are worse than the users. Ever heard the phrase, "Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely."? For the most part you have no idea what it means to be moderators! I like to use the term Leaders in Service, as moderators and admins we are meant to lead the masses, show them the way that is acceptable to behave on the forum, and service the communities interest when a problem comes up. What happens then when the problem is the moderators. When you can't talk to them when their all high and might on their golden thrones in ivory towers! If anyone makes a comment that states that you should be acting like leaders, and not bitch slapping your scapegoat, yiou bitchslap them and make them your new scape goat. Which is whats happened to me. I know I made a mistake in the Discussion thread, I even dared them to ban me, but they didn't instead they decide to be childish pricks, and you know what's worse. There are some of you out there who agree with me, but you won't stand up and be counted because your afraid. You are afraid to stand up against these ass holes in fear of being banned. Why? Is this place really all that good? If you have to fear about what you say or do, then the answer is no. If you are afraid to have your say heard, if you are afraid to have a differing opinion to a moderator and get subsequently banned, then you are VOTING for a DICTATORSHIP! You are wilfully forgoing your rights to freedom. What's even worse, this thread will be locked before anyone has the chance to respond, it'll probably even be deleted before many of you get the chance to read it. There is a reason for that, because this website is nothing without it's members, same with any site. The more members that join the more power the mods have, because they have power over more people. However if this site were to loose all it's members, God forbid, then the moderators will have noone under them, they will have no power, and for the most part they are relaxed, content in knowing that there will always be at least one person they can push around, otherwise they would respect the members a hell of a lot more. Rules are there to make things better. Rules are not designed to spoil someone's fun, they are designed to control the outlet of that fun and direct it in a creative way that can be enjoyed by all. This forum, the rules are there strict for the new members, can be bent for the longer lasting members and are the plaything of the moderators. They use the rules as it suits them. As pointed out above, using locked threads to harass members. Members like me who realise that in the real world these people have no power, and that's why they covet it so much here. You are worthless, pointless, a waste of air, and by the time you get around to posting something here, or locking the thread, making sure no one else can have their say on this matter, you will all be nothing more than the shadow of a memory. Of course I'm not expecting a real reply to this from the mods, they have no real way of defending themselves aside from slander and libel, belittling anything that they disagree with with sarcasm and insult. If you actually have a working mind. They are childish like that. BUTTSPESSO... seriously, that's the kinda thing a 6 year old would find immature. Bye, kindly go to hell...

09-24-2009, 10:46 PM	#4
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	"I didn't pay attention to the rules of the discussion forum and got infracted." Imagine that... __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

09-24-2009, 10:52 PM	#9
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	__________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

09-24-2009, 10:48 PM	#5
Kepor pretty cool guy Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 814	OK. So. This is now the 'Are The Mods Out of Control?' thread. Frogman, I think you're overreacting a bit. Remember that this is a sprite comic forum, so nothing here is to be taken seriously. Or at least not this seriously. That thread did get out of hand, but that happens with text-based communication. If there's something you really want to discuss, we can do that, just remember the difficulties in this kind of communication.

09-24-2009, 10:49 PM	#6
Frogman Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 62	That was mere luck that I cam across this. If you are smart you will avoid the obvious traps set to deter you from the point at hand. Thanks NonCon for proving my point. I would love to discuss stuff, but I'm not going to do it here. After this post I'm not even going to bother defending myself, I've said all I need to.