Ultimate Marvel

[TheZeroMan]

Actually I've read the actual book but if Captain America was (though I guess he isn't) the traitor it would make sense. Because at some level the Ultimates is just retelling the old continuity in a new way for fun and profit.

And during the 70s Captain America lost faith in the American government because of President Nixon, Watergate, and the Vietnam war and quit being Captain America and the Avengers so he could roam the country as "Nomad" for half a decade or so.

So it fits.

And the "Ultimate" Beast is dead. If he ever comes back to life it will be incredibly lame.

[Elmer J.]

Originally Posted by TheZeroMan

Actually I've read the actual book but if Captain America was (though I guess he isn't) the traitor it would make sense. Because at some level the Ultimates is just retelling the old continuity in a new way for fun and profit.

And during the 70s Captain America lost faith in the American government because of President Nixon, Watergate, and the Vietnam war and quit being Captain America and the Avengers so he could roam the country as "Nomad" for half a decade or so.

So it fits.

And the "Ultimate" Beast is dead. If he ever comes back to life it will be incredibly lame.

Well, Ultimate Cap is, if anything, more patriotic than 616 Cap. He missed Watergate altogether, being frozen in an iceberg at the time. So it really wouldn't make sense for Ultimate Cap to betray America, persay. However! There have been quite a few hints of unrest and factionalization within the American government about posthumans. So if Cap threw his lot in with the anti-posthuman side, he would probably betray the Ultimates, and Nick Fury. Nick Fury has tried to work around the President to keep his favorite posthumans safe before.

Also, while I'm usually against the resurrection of characters, killing Ultimate Beast in the first place was much lamer than retconning his death to be a cover for enlisting him in the Black-Ops section of the Ultimates by far. He was as awesome as classic Beast is, and then some.

[Wetflame]

Beast joined the avengers shortly after turning blue in 616, and they'll need someone to keep the numbers up now Widow is gone.

Here's hoping :/ We probably won't find out until August though, when Ultimates Volume 3 will probably start. Though he may turn up in Ultimate Extinction.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by TheZeroMan

Actually I've read the actual book but if Captain America was (though I guess he isn't) the traitor it would make sense. Because at some level the Ultimates is just retelling the old continuity in a new way for fun and profit.

And during the 70s Captain America lost faith in the American government because of President Nixon, Watergate, and the Vietnam war and quit being Captain America and the Avengers so he could roam the country as "Nomad" for half a decade or so.

Yeah but that's a pretty long way from selling out America to an superpowered invasion force.

Captain America never betrayed America, he was pissed that Nixon and the whole rogues' gallery of madmen behind Vietnam betrayed America.

Originally Posted by TheZeroMan

And the "Ultimate" Beast is dead. If he ever comes back to life it will be incredibly lame.

It was incredibly lame when they killed him so they're allowed to bring him back.

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Originally Posted by Wetflame

Here's hoping :/ We probably won't find out until August though, when Ultimates Volume 3 will probably start.

I'm really sketchy on the prospects of the Ultimates once it isn't written by Millar anymore.

Originally Posted by Wetflame

Though he may turn up in Ultimate Extinction.

Yeah, but the Ultimate Galactus stuff comes out at like one issue every six months, so I wouldn't worry about an overlap.