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Unread 10-29-2006, 10:07 PM   #91
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Marinian has told me Charok controls death, and ressurection (as it is the end of death).

I may be being long winded, but Charok is saying either bring it, or shut up and get out of my face. As someone who tries to avoid bad precedent you seem to be fully endoursing a war of the gods, by constantly trying to provoke a fight.

I'm calling the bluff.
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Unread 10-29-2006, 10:32 PM   #92
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Ah, but that's just the problem. Tcharne is not the sort to bluff much. She is not bluffing. It is an aspect that is scary about her - she will do exactly what she says she will do. And if she says she will do something, it means she believes it can be done.

Chaork has showed himself to be unswayed by lesser measures. The gods believe his presumption too much and so move to stop him. Tcharne's offer is an act of mercy - a chance for Charok to properly represent himself and defend his actions.

On to philosophical quibbling, ressurrection fits right under 'deferral of death'. I find calling it the 'end of death' questionable though. As things are set up now, most people die and go to the underworld forever. The only people with an 'end' to death are the followers of Tcharne, because they reincarnate instead of going to the afterlife.

New life however - the entry of the spark of life into something new - does not fit under ressurrection. It is not the delay of an end, it is a beginning. I kind of like the idea of the spark of new life being a mystery even to the gods.
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Unread 10-30-2006, 01:42 AM   #93
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I don't think Tcharne or the others are prepared for a straight fight, which means we go into a Trojan War scenario, and make the mortals do our dirty work. In every mythology when the gods go all out on each other, it always ends badly for the mortals, or worse for the losing side, and yet, invariably the ones who go on the offensive end up the cycle of their destruction.
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Uhh... God of war, right here. I think I'm more than ready for any kind of fight, except a political one. Straight-up, roundabout, you name it, I can fight it. Besides, I've been trying to build up for a great war, this just makes it easier for me. Granted, it kind of fast tracks things on my part, but I figure that I should be able to do it, if my math is right.
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Well, Tcharne's decided to bring it. As I have mentioned before, she did come prepared for if Charok was unwilling.

To put it basically, she's the one who's come prepared for a straight fight (well, at least as straight a fight as sorceror-gods tend to have), while Charok is weakened - he's only got Ends and Wood at present.

And demented, I do have to admire Gibrah's directness of approach. Burning down a forest, good job!
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Unread 10-30-2006, 11:23 PM   #96
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You seem to think those are inconsequential elements. Consider this, all the uses wood has especially in the ancient world. Say good by to farming, and forging, also no weapons other than knives or swords made before, no homes, castles, or temples, no fires to cook with or heat by.
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Actually, I'm saying he's temporarily given away more than half of his domains. Thus, quite weakened. Especially since one is the one he was most known for - death.

I'm also a little iffy on curses like that. It would have taken substantial power to place a curse like that and thus would probably give Tcharne a free hand to kick Charok's ass. It hardly strikes me as the first thing that springs to mind when you've got a goddess personally set on beating you up. First comes things like defending yourself.

So... in the meantime Charok didn't try to stop getting impaled and infected by the spear of blight? Or react to any of that other stuff?

EDIT I also later realised that I missed out the joke of "Remember kids, only you can stop forest fires!"
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I could have done that, I really could have. But this is more damaging in the long run, how long do you think you both will have worshippers when your people are dieing of starvation and exposure, those that aren't killed of course by their collapsing homes. Also the loss of your holy texts, and the destruction of your temples. Charok may have lost 50% of his power, but he just gave license to that missing half to mess up your base something fierce. These are not industrial age people, these are middle ages at best, and a curse like this means the people will abandon you to survive.

After all you could have left well enough alone, and let me make my exit. Charok would have left you in peace, but no, you had to roll in with beef. I made it abundantly clear I didn't want to play this game. Besides you deserve it for shooting Charok in the back.
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Excuse me, you are missing the point.
If you bothered to read Arhra's post you'd see that the argument is that you are currently under attack, which you seem to be ignoring to unleash a really powerful curse, which, frankly, isn't entirely fair.
By the scope of the power you just exerted over wood Closet Monster could legitemately blight every single one of your followers with madness, I still think that even as gods an effort to power is maintained.
I'm not disputing that you could do some form of curse like that, but I think to maintain fairness and clarity it would take a lot more work and couldn't be done in an instant, otherwise believe me, all hell would rip the rp apart.

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Unread 10-31-2006, 12:42 PM   #100
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I'm not ignoring the attack at all, if you had read my post. I'm countering with a sideways attack. I never said I would fight fair. Tcharne is attacking the God of Wood in his element, where he is at his strongest. He may be weakened in respect to all of his domains as a total. Charok was in his woods, and chosing where to fight can make all the difference. Look at the Battle of Thermopalae 300 Spartans held off 100,000 Persians for several days. Also, quit acting like they have the authority to do so. NONE OF THE CHARACTERS BEFORE HAVE DIRECTLY ASSAULTED ANOTHER! People want to talk about bad precedents, considering none of the dieties involved asked Kamin for permission first. This is assault; assault is crime; crimes should be punished.

And I said before we even restarted this stupid story I didn't want to play along. This RP only works as long as we all agree it does. This does not change the fact that Tcharne attacked a peron as they were leaving. That is dishonorable conduct no matter how you look at it, and deserves whatever happens to her. You can't claim to be the good guy if you attack someone who is not threatening you, has their back to you, and is leaving.
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