FFD6: The Dicening: The Discussion: Uno, Dos, Tres, Quatro, Cinco, Cinco, Sies - Page 10

IHateMakingNames · 02-11-2011, 03:16 AM

There are no zombies, but are there corpses?

Krylo · 02-11-2011, 03:17 AM

Not in that room.

The corpses were down stairs around Raltz and Ark.

IHateMakingNames · 02-11-2011, 03:18 AM

Weren't there corpses in basically every room and all around the city?

Krylo · 02-11-2011, 03:19 AM

Basically every room, but not in the research lab upstairs. There were some more areas that were strangely corpseless in the hospital as well.

Dracorion · 02-11-2011, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

This is compounded by the fact that you give off this feeling in the way you choose your words that makes it seem like you think you are better than everyone else. MAYBE it is just a language thing, I know English is probably your second language and all, but it doesn't make it any easier to read.

It's a Geminex thing.

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Originally Posted by Krylo

Except Drac. You guys seem to have some kind of hate-lust thing going, and I'm not going to get in the way of that.

<3<

But it's okay, we're an open relationship.

*Wink wink nudge nudge*

Teal Mage · 02-11-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

Basically every room, but not in the research lab upstairs. There were some more areas that were strangely corpseless in the hospital as well.

I recall three corpses on this floor, the Hospital's Admin (with a Mana Cannon Graft), a Secretary who looked terrified about something and an Orderly who'd been covered in vicious looking claw marks. We didn't examine the Secretary's body too closely, so I really don't know how she died. Still it looked more violent than the other bodies. The Orderly's was definitely more violent than usual though.

Incidentally, don't use the Pepper Bombs we found on this floor. They only work on Living targets. If I had more MP, I'd experiment by casting Restore on them for a Holy Elemental Spike, but considering Arden only has three Cures left in her, I'm not sure wasting my points on anything that isn't healing would be wise.

Anyway, feel free to reply to Bello while Arden's casting. Magic takes focus! She won't talk other than in distracted mutters. We can talk in flash-back form as well, if we have to.

Edit: I'll be using my Ether on Jhennek or Raltz, depending on whether we need more Healing or Thunder. If you're wondering.

Edit2: For Krylo's sake, assuming my formation's used, Ark would be in Melee of the Enemy, Elsa and Kole in Short Range (to start) and Arden, Bello and Jhen would be at Medium Range. Raltz can place himself, since Arden doesn't know where to put their strongest Healer - 'cuz of his sword. Can't be healing all the time.

And in the event the Elevator Doors start closing, Arden'll keep talking outside it, unless they're attacked or some such.

Overcast · 02-11-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Oh come on. Because he didn't set a hive of killer bees on fire? Really?
Really?
Cause I'm pretty sure that's one hell of a risk to take.

And besides, if you wanted me to, you could've made a lore check. But like I said to Drac:
It could have helped us by damaging a lot of bees.
Or it could have just made all of them attack us.

I mean, jesus, everyone's acting like fire is a guaranteeed 100% good thing, yes indeed. But you don't think that, if he used it, it might just antagonize more bees, rather than killing them?

Edit: I mean come on. If you're gonna make your character a jackass at least make him a rational jackass.

Caspin doesn't care about anything other than cooking. Cooking for him also includes his ever branching quest of taste, which in itself includes monster hunting. So when you doubt him in matters of monster or cuisine you sting at the weak points of his persona. So yes, because he didn't set the hive of killer bees on fire, doubted what Caspin got himself exiled from his birthplace for and bases his entire life upon and threw it in his face only to watch it get worse. He'll mark you as no different than his parents, and you lose any trust you might have earned.

And just for a note, in case no one ever says anything. Setting that tree on fire was the best possible thing you could have done two turns ago after you retreated. I knew this as a certainty, but it would have been metagaming to tell you this outright, and now that it is too late I can say that plainly.

You fucked up.

Geminex · 02-11-2011, 11:36 AM

Look, I had this great long thing written out. I'm not gonna post it, because it might not be optimal right now, but here's the summary.

The main reason Docus didn't do what Caspin said (and I didn't do what you said, for that matter) is that you didn't justify it. Caspin told Docus what he wanted, but not why it would be successful. And I do think Docus' refusal makes sense in that light. If Caspin had actually displayed knowlege, or given an explanation, we'd be in an entirely different situation right now. And I'm kinda forced to ask, why didn't he? It wouldn't have been metagaming (and speaking of which, I wasn't aware of Krylo's stance on that, I'll remember from now on). In fact, it would've made a lot mroe sense than Caspin staying silent on the 'why', even if he isn't much of a team player. I won't say that the fault is Caspin's, Docus probably should have listened to the monster expert.

But come on, put yourself in the guy's shoes. The three people giving him orders are a would-be murderer, a thief and, well, Caspin (who's also kind of a would-be murderer, but Docus doesn't necessarily know that). As such, he considers them pretty untrustworthy, albeit part of the team. They didn't justify those orders, they just told him what to do. As such, he assumes they don't really have justification, which fits in with his character, since for him, communication is everything. I don't really think either I, or Docus, fucked up here. You cannot blame me or him for not taking orders, I think. You could blame me for disregarding information, but other than "Do this or we die", there really wasn't a lot of info. I won't give you any blame, but, again, why on earth didn't you have Caspin tell the team what he knew?

I do think it's kinda unreasonable for Caspin to get offended that Docus disregarded his expertise when he never displayed expertise. Especially considering that Docus probably saved his life, y'know?

Re: Krylo. As for me being an asshole...
In regards to the language thing, I'd be really interested in seeing where that pops up, since I do want to put a lid on it. I've been going through some of my posts, haven't found anything pertinent, yet. Could you isolate some examples?

As for the Jackass post, yeah, I could have responded better. But I made that fairly early in the morning, and I am not a morning person. Plus, I think Ovie knows me well enough to realize I rarely mean any insult. In case he doesn't, yo, Ovie. I totally didn't mean offense with that post. Sorry bout that.

And ultimately, I also don't think Docus deserves to lose his reward. This will probably ultimately be up to the team, but again: All Docus got were orders. Is it reasonable to expect him to follow those? I mean, we're worse off now, obviously, and yes, that is partly Docus' fault. But how should he have known?

POS Industries · 02-11-2011, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Overcast

Caspin doesn't care about anything other than cooking. Cooking for him also includes his ever branching quest of taste, which in itself includes monster hunting. So when you doubt him in matters of monster or cuisine you sting at the weak points of his persona. So yes, because he didn't set the hive of killer bees on fire, doubted what Caspin got himself exiled from his birthplace for and bases his entire life upon and threw it in his face only to watch it get worse. He'll mark you as no different than his parents, and you lose any trust you might have earned.

Not for nothing, but I don't see why anyone should be upset about losing the trust of the character that none of the other characters trust to begin with.

Geminex · 02-11-2011, 12:02 PM

Well, I want to be super-duper happy friends with everyone, so it does kidna annoy me, especially after the whole 'saving his life' thing.

But mostly this is just me, trying to explain to everyone why Docus screwed up, in the hopes that the 'I told you so's don't ring quite as loud.

02-11-2011, 03:16 AM	#91
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	There are no zombies, but are there corpses? __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi

02-11-2011, 03:17 AM	#92
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Not in that room. The corpses were down stairs around Raltz and Ark. __________________ I am very tired.

02-11-2011, 03:18 AM	#93
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	Weren't there corpses in basically every room and all around the city? __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi

02-11-2011, 03:19 AM	#94
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Basically every room, but not in the research lab upstairs. There were some more areas that were strangely corpseless in the hospital as well. __________________ I am very tired.

02-11-2011, 11:36 AM	#98
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Look, I had this great long thing written out. I'm not gonna post it, because it might not be optimal right now, but here's the summary. The main reason Docus didn't do what Caspin said (and I didn't do what you said, for that matter) is that you didn't justify it. Caspin told Docus what he wanted, but not why it would be successful. And I do think Docus' refusal makes sense in that light. If Caspin had actually displayed knowlege, or given an explanation, we'd be in an entirely different situation right now. And I'm kinda forced to ask, why didn't he? It wouldn't have been metagaming (and speaking of which, I wasn't aware of Krylo's stance on that, I'll remember from now on). In fact, it would've made a lot mroe sense than Caspin staying silent on the 'why', even if he isn't much of a team player. I won't say that the fault is Caspin's, Docus probably should have listened to the monster expert. But come on, put yourself in the guy's shoes. The three people giving him orders are a would-be murderer, a thief and, well, Caspin (who's also kind of a would-be murderer, but Docus doesn't necessarily know that). As such, he considers them pretty untrustworthy, albeit part of the team. They didn't justify those orders, they just told him what to do. As such, he assumes they don't really have justification, which fits in with his character, since for him, communication is everything. I don't really think either I, or Docus, fucked up here. You cannot blame me or him for not taking orders, I think. You could blame me for disregarding information, but other than "Do this or we die", there really wasn't a lot of info. I won't give you any blame, but, again, why on earth didn't you have Caspin tell the team what he knew? I do think it's kinda unreasonable for Caspin to get offended that Docus disregarded his expertise when he never displayed expertise. Especially considering that Docus probably saved his life, y'know? Re: Krylo. As for me being an asshole... In regards to the language thing, I'd be really interested in seeing where that pops up, since I do want to put a lid on it. I've been going through some of my posts, haven't found anything pertinent, yet. Could you isolate some examples? As for the Jackass post, yeah, I could have responded better. But I made that fairly early in the morning, and I am not a morning person. Plus, I think Ovie knows me well enough to realize I rarely mean any insult. In case he doesn't, yo, Ovie. I totally didn't mean offense with that post. Sorry bout that. And ultimately, I also don't think Docus deserves to lose his reward. This will probably ultimately be up to the team, but again: All Docus got were orders. Is it reasonable to expect him to follow those? I mean, we're worse off now, obviously, and yes, that is partly Docus' fault. But how should he have known? Last edited by Geminex; 02-11-2011 at 11:49 AM. Reason: Wait, I just rewrote the great long thing. Nice one, Gem.

02-11-2011, 12:02 PM	#100
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Well, I want to be super-duper happy friends with everyone, so it does kidna annoy me, especially after the whole 'saving his life' thing. But mostly this is just me, trying to explain to everyone why Docus screwed up, in the hopes that the 'I told you so's don't ring quite as loud.