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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:11 PM   #91
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Well I spent six dollars total on it and also saw The Hangover Part 2 along with it which was quite enjoyable, so I'd say my contribution to the coffers was quite low.
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It..was just a summer super hero movie. From now on, I mmove we quit with dropping all this really unrealistic negativity and exaggeration, it makes it very difficult to judge interest in a movie from veiwer reaction if everyone is going to blow all the smallest details the fuck out of proportion and formulate complaints about things that either aren't a problem or were the fault of the person not paying attention. For real.
But this wasn't a normal comic book movie, nor was it a bad comic book movie. It was a bad movie. It had way more plot than was necessary, the action scenes were just laughable and not interesting, and all in all it didn't move like a motherfucker.
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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:42 PM   #92
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Is Green Lantern just devoid of interesting villains or what?
Basically, yes. Or, at least, the characters that become the Lantern Corps' most interesting/decent villains are the ones that spent the movie as Hal's friends, namely Sinestro and Carol Ferris. Hector Hammond is pretty much a throwaway villain at this point (probably only brought back into the comics to be involved in Brightest Day because he was chosen to be the main bad guy in the movie), and from what I hear it seems they completely mishandled Parallax, since the whole thing with it being this big nasty yellow fear monster was a massive retcon in the first place and revealing it as such in the very first (and probably only!) movie in the GL franchise is really putting the cart before the horse.

You see, the original Parallax was Hal Jordan after he went crazy when Coast City was destroyed. He annihilated the entire Lantern Corps and I think nearly destroyed the entire space-time continuum and then eventually came back and, in one last act of heroism, sacrificed himself to reignite the sun (long story) and that was that for a few years.

But then Geoff Johns decided that the characters he read about as a kid were way cooler than the ones that replaced them and decided to bring back Hal, so it turns out he was possessed by an evil fear monster all along, thus absolving him of any and all guilt in the matter and allowing everyone to go about their business. /wiki

Basically what they needed to do here was do Hal's origin, have him discover that Sinestro, the most awesome Green Lantern ever, was actually using his power to rule his entire world with an iron fist, and then Hal has to stop him. Meanwhile, Carol's not dealing with the fact that Hal's run off to the four corners of the galaxy to do his superhero shit well, they have a blow out, and Hal, being kind of a dick, chooses FIGHTAN EVUL over her and she gets her heart broken like nobody's business, attracting the power of the Star Sapphire to her. Meanwhile, Sinestro is banished to Qward or whatever for his crimes and at the end you see him making his snazzy new yellow ring. Roll credits.

Boom, you have a decent enough origin story for Hal and both of his most notable classic villains with a proper setup for future sequels that accurately captures the spirit of the characters involved. Why is this shit so hard for Hollywood to do?
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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:46 PM   #93
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Basically what they needed to do here was do Hal's origin, have him discover that Sinestro, the most awesome Green Lantern ever, was actually using his power to rule his entire world with an iron fist, and then Hal has to stop him. Meanwhile, Carol's not dealing with the fact that Hal's run off to the four corners of the galaxy to do his superhero shit well, they have a blow out, and Hal, being kind of a dick, chooses FIGHTAN EVUL over her and she gets her heart broken like nobody's business, attracting the power of the Star Sapphire to her. Meanwhile, Sinestro is banished to Qward or whatever for his crimes and at the end you see him making his snazzy new yellow ring. Roll credits.

Boom, you have a decent enough origin story for Hal and both of his most notable classic villains with a proper setup for future sequels that accurately captures the spirit of the characters involved. Why is this shit so hard for Hollywood to do?
So you're saying this should have been more like Training Day? Because that seems to be the general consensus.
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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:49 PM   #94
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...Yes. This should have been exactly like Training Day in space with hard light constructs.

WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST DO THAT I DON'T EVEN
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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:50 PM   #95
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While I doubt Training Day was ripping off DC, fairly certain they did it first so technically Training Day is like GL's origin story

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...Yes. This should have been exactly like Training Day in space with hard light constructs.

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cause then it would be accused of ripping off Training Day
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Unread 06-18-2011, 04:54 PM   #96
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cause then it would be accused of ripping off Training Day
Better than being accused of being a bad movie.
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...Yes. This should have been exactly like Training Day in space with hard light constructs.

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Ok that would have been a better movie.


As far as Bad goes...Dragon Ball Evolution was a bad movie, GL was just a comic book super-hero action movie. It wasn't Bad, it just wasn't up-to-par with what we've been getting from our Super-hero movies of late.
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cause then it would be accused of ripping off Training Day
Not really a concern for them, a few other places pegged the beginning as Top Gun-liteLight.
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Was there a reason stated for why the producers picked Green Lantern to start as a new money making franchise, anyway? It seems like any major super hero that people have vaguely heard of would do. For instance, Reynolds seems more like The Flash than Green Lantern. Pretty much any big member of the Justice League would do to try and make a bunch of money off of, Green Lantern seems the hardest to adapt in an interesting way, since his power is kind of, uh, both extremely abstract but also extremely simple. He seems like a character that works better for a film plot alongside a bunch of other superheroes.

For instance, not to spoil anything, but at one point in the film Green Lantern has to stop a helicopter from crashing. It's been shown that he can just catch things with a big giant green hand and lay them down. However, this is boring to see in every scene, so they came up with the rather ludicrous plan of "turn helicopter into race car and have it race on copy of Hot Wheels track that we saw at the beginning", just to make the power more interesting, to keep it from being too simple. But at the same time, Green Lantern could just make a nuclear bomb to take Parallax out in space rather than going to all the trouble of throwing him into the sun. So the power is also way too abstract and all encompassing.
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So the power is also way too abstract and all encompassing.
That was definitely a major issue with this movie. I gotta say, casting Reynolds was a good decision but not as Hal Jordan. He's a better fit for Kyle Rayner. Plus, the character's background as an artist would go a long way with making the power interesting and actually giving him a reason to use it in such over the top ways.
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