"Strong Female Characters" or "Sexy Girls Kicking Butt In Tight Clothes"

[Aerozord]

probably a bad idea to use characters from series of other nations as examples. Their values and views on gender are different. Not saying they are invalid, just that it might be a bad idea to put them up to the perspective of a very different culture.

[phil_]

Originally Posted by Marc v1.0

Remember, strong characters are never ever supposed to have romances or rely on others. Especially if they do either with the opposite sex, that's just plan insane and in no way reflective of real people at all.

But Tsubomi likes every boy! You telling me magical middle-school Michael Weston isn't a strong character? How many clients' problems have you solved this week with the help of your friends? That's what I thought.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Magus

True. Apparently, truly unattractive people do not even bother to get into acting in the first place, unless they're going to be a character actor, like "guy who plays angry fat police chief" or "woman who plays old witch crone".

My favorite moment in Sexy Tudors is when Henry meets his latest wife, Anne of Cleves, and goes SHE LOOKS LIKE A HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And she's like... exactly as stunningly beautiful as every single actor on that show.

EDIT: Weirdly this is kind of true to history except that the show itself acts as if she actually is supposed to be unattractive.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

My favorite moment in Sexy Tudors is when Henry meets his latest wife, Anne of Cleves, and goes SHE LOOKS LIKE A HORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And she's like... exactly as stunningly beautiful as every single actor on that show.

EDIT: Weirdly this is kind of true to history except that the show itself acts as if she actually is supposed to be unattractive.

Either he's speaking very poorly of her or, rather, he's speaking very highly of his horse.

[Kerensky287]

Originally Posted by phil_

Michael Weston

Oooh! Yes! Burn Notice. I think Fiona Glenanne is a damn good example of a Strong Female Character (TM), especially with the trigger-happiness, gratuitous C4 and sexy, sexy accent.

EDIT: Revolutionary idea: how many Weak Female Characters (TM) would be vastly improved by giving them C4 and firearms?

[Magus]

Originally Posted by Seil

The Miyazaki flicks that I've seen - Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away - have... what? A wolf princess literally abandoned by her parents to be eaten by a wolf and is brought up to hate her own kind, but finds love and redemption in the arms of the big, strong, male lead that's dealing with his own demons.

Spirited Away has a... thirteen (?) year old chick who's shanghied into working in a bath house by a witch, stinks at it, lucks into saving a river spirit, and then goes on a big journey to convince the super nice sister of the witch to save her pseudo-boyfriend. After which, she somehow correctly assumes that he's the spirit of the river that she lost her shoe in when she was younger and he's saved from the evil witch forever.

Not saying that they're bad movies, or uninteresting characters, but one's a tough girl who goes after the troubled male lead, the other's a klutz who's in way over her head and falls for the only guy who shows her any sympathy, pretty much lucking through every obstacle.

Yeah, but they're still strong female characters.

They don't have to be lesbians to be strong female characters. Pretty sure they can be romantically involved with a male in the movie and still be strong female characters.

Tales of Earthsea had a pretty strong female lead, too, as did Howl's Moving Castle, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, etc.

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by phil_

But Tsubomi likes every boy! You telling me magical middle-school Michael Weston isn't a strong character? How many clients' problems have you solved this week with the help of your friends? That's what I thought.

sarcasm

[Fifthfiend]

I honestly have no idea what this thread is.

There are certainly legitimate criticisms of legitimately-deserving-of-criticism things which uh... include some of the same words as I've seen used in this thread, but past that yeah IDEK.

[phil_]

This is the thread where I tell people to watch my little girl cartoons, namely Heartcatch Precure, Fifth. Pretty simple, really.

[Fifthfiend]

Like maybe this thread is criticizing apparently strong female characters who aren't really, or the necessity of strong female characters who have to sex it up to be allowed to appear in things, or maybe it's not even criticizing that there are characters who are female and do things strongly, or maybe it's not criticizing anything and is just noting that characters who are female and do things which might be considered to possess strongitude exist in fictitious works, or maybe it's about some shitty anime that Phil likes. I DUNNO, WHAT

edit: I feel like I should just make twelve or thirteen threads for all of the things which hypothetically might have been whatever was supposed to be the actual point of this thread.