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Unread 01-15-2013, 06:53 PM   #91
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I have evidence that concentration of these biological cells allows the manifestations of "force powers".
What evidence is there that you have to be stoic? That you cannot have emotion? That you cannot chop down people you find in a magic tree because it will turn out to be yourself?
I have evidence that "the force" is a mere biological phenomenon which has been monopolised and perverted with tacked on religious mumbo-jumbo. Which is far mroe evidence than the jedi have that say hates leads to the dark side.

You guys are like creationists- not being able to explain everything doesn't mean your method of inquiry is worthless.
I'm not saying that the Jedi are totally right about the force, just that there are too many unknowns about it to unambiguously be more correct in saying that Midichlorians are any more responsible for it than wearing your hair in the weird braid dohickey is, because everyone who has worn their hair in the weird braid dohickey has become a Jedi.

You have no more evidence about midichlorians than I about stoicism and braid dohickeys. It's all just correlation that has not been studied, because of dark age sciences.

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not being able to explain everything doesn't mean your method of inquiry is worthless
This is a non-argument: You say that braid dohickeys, stoicness, and emotionlessness doesn't lead to force powers, because it doesn't explain everything. I say midichlorians might not lead to force powers, since there's not enough science to actually know. Either argument is bolstered equally by it.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 06:56 PM   #92
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I'm not saying that the Jedi are totally right about the force, just that there are too many unknowns about it to unambiguously be more correct in saying that Midichlorians are any more responsible for it than wearing your hair in the weird braid dohickey is, because everyone who has worn their hair in the weird braid dohickey has become a Jedi.

You have no more evidence about midichlorians than I about stoicism and braid dohickeys. It's all just correlation that has not been studied, because of dark age sciences.
IF YOU HAVE MORE MIDICHLORIANS IN YOUR BLOOD YOU ARE ABLE TO MANIFEST STRONGER FORCE POWERS. THAT IS A DIRECT CORRELATION. THIS IS THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD OF EVIDENCE.


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This is a non-argument: You say that braid dohickeys, stoicness, and emotionlessness doesn't lead to force powers, because it doesn't explain everything. I say midichlorians might not lead to force powers, since there's not enough science to actually know. Either argument is bolstered equally by it.
APART FROM THE FACT THAT I HAVE AN ACTUAL DIRECT CORRELATION BEHIND MY ARGUMENT AND YOU HAVE THE NONSENSE RAMBLINGS OF A FROG MAN WHO LETS CHILDREN BE MURDERED BECAUSE HE WANTS TO GO SMOKE WOOKIE JOINTS.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 06:58 PM   #93
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IF YOU HAVE MORE MIDICHLORIANS IN YOUR BLOOD YOU ARE ABLE TO MANIFEST STRONGER FORCE POWERS. THAT IS A DIRECT CORRELATION. THIS IS THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD OF EVIDENCE.
If a magnet is more powerful than another, it has more pieces of metal attached to it. Do the pieces of metal make the magnet strong?

Maybe it does to your dark age sciences.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 07:33 PM   #94
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Anakin had way more midichlorians than Yoda but Yoda was a way more powerful Jedi than he was.
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Anakin had way more midichlorians than Yoda but Yoda was a way more powerful Jedi than he was.
Yoda also had several centuries of practice in using his midichlorians. Anakin still had to work with a puny Tatooinian lifetime.
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Yoda also had several centuries of practice in using his midichlorians. Anakin still had to work with a puny Tatooinian lifetime.
Hundreds of years of experience won't make a magnet any stronger.
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And having a high Magic stat doesn't help if you haven't learned all the best spells yet.
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Unread 01-15-2013, 11:56 PM   #99
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So, pretty much, without additional information, this argument is at a standstill?
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Unread 01-16-2013, 01:06 AM   #100
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No because as Smarty pointed out, they have a way of measuring midaclhorians and how it is a pointed out in the movie to directly relate to force power.
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