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Unread 07-01-2008, 11:46 AM   #1011
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As much as I would be willing to defend Dante from now until forever (and I have done so, in this very thread), even I'm impressed by those stats. I've never actually heard of this God Emperor, but it does sound like his powers far outmatch Dante here. As powerful as Dante is, he is still a melee combatant and therefore his abilities do have limits. He is not a god.

The only kind of characters I can really imagine fighting someone like the God Emperor would be an Omega level mutant like Pheonix, or any half decent reality warper.
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Unread 07-01-2008, 12:04 PM   #1012
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Well, how about Iron Man vs. Batman 2 aka Terry McGuiness?
Depends which version of Iron Man you mean, comics or movie. As far as comics Terry's definitely more maneuverable but it's hard to see anything he has doing much damage to the IM armor and Tony has a ridiculously higher level of technical mastery so he's inevitably going to EMP-pulse or remote-shutdown or whatever thing to Terry's suit and then Terry's kind of screwed. Movie version I think is still raw enough experience-wise that Terry could close in and take enough chunks out of his armor to bring him down before Iron Downey Jr. is able to blow out Terry's own technology.

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Omega level mutant like Phoenix, or any half decent reality warper.

I don't think anything less than the full Phoenix Force Cosmic Entity-empowered Jean Grey is gonna do a lot of damage here.

The reality-warpers are a pretty tricky bunch in that their power can vary by pretty much whatever a given writer says it is at any given moment in time, so maybe.
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Unread 07-01-2008, 07:38 PM   #1013
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Haha Dante doesn't stand even a little bit of a chance. I mean when I was pointing out mind nukes earlier I suppose I should go into a little more depth.

The GEOM was the first psyker ever, and along with him came psyker rankings. The rankings start at the weakest, which is Omega, which count down to Alpha, which counts back up in pluses such as Alpha+ and Beta+.

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A high Delta level can read the minds of a good sized town simultaneously, or crush a man to death against a wall in seconds. High grade psykers are extremely powerful, and not to be taken lightly. Beta level is the highest a human can go and still be considered sane.

An Alpha Plus, however, is a being of grotesque power. They are described in the 4th edition Rulebook as being able to "turn a man inside-out with a glance", "snap a Battle Titan in half with a flick of the wrist", and "a muttered syllable can turn an army upon itself in a frenzy of bloodlust". They are capable of destroying entire worlds - sometimes unintentionally.


Now take that info and understand that the GEOM is an Omega Plus psyker. On his death throes he can throw together a mind nuke that was, “more powerful than a supernova, more coherent than a laser." I mean I know Dante can survive having swords rammed through him, but this other guy happens to be the immortal manifestation of pure psychic super energy in human looking form.
Just to comment on that link, but that is depressing.


Back to Terry vs. Tony, I think that it would come down to who was the better tactician. If I remember correctly, Terry's suit not only has various gadgets, but also enhances his speed and agility as well as strength, where Iron Man is more of a power house, but not as nimble. If Terry could use his speed to his advantage, I think he could at least do a good deal of damage, maybe even win if he could pinpoint a way to adequately damage Iron Man's armor. However, in a head-to-head brute battle, Iron Man wins hands down.



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Unread 07-02-2008, 01:40 AM   #1014
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Back to Terry vs. Tony, I think that it would come down to who was the better tactician. If I remember correctly, Terry's suit not only has various gadgets, but also enhances his speed and agility as well as strength, where Iron Man is more of a power house, but not as nimble. If Terry could use his speed to his advantage, I think he could at least do a good deal of damage, maybe even win if he could pinpoint a way to adequately damage Iron Man's armor. However, in a head-to-head brute battle, Iron Man wins hands down.
Hmm. I was thinking they would be pretty equal. But now I guess the problem I'm seeing for Terry is lack of armor. Or lack of armor on Tony's level. Or does the suit offer protection sort of like what we're talking about in this thread?
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Unread 07-07-2008, 03:48 AM   #1015
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Goku vs Ultimecia

Because I mean, godly powers versus fricken' time compression.
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Unread 07-07-2008, 12:44 PM   #1016
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Yeah, she had that time compression, but it didn't actually do too much for her in a fight. And honestly; she compressed time on what, one planet? That's so far below DBZ scale, it's not funny.
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I would also contend that time compression was too ill explained to be able to use properly in a vs. disscussion. I mean, I love FFVIII and all, but any explanation i could give would really just be my own interpretation.

Also she couldn't just use time compression on the fly in a fight-type situation.
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Rorschach (the watchmen) vs The punisher.

Honestly i think Rorschach would win hands down.
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Unread 07-09-2008, 02:07 AM   #1020
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I would also contend that time compression was too ill explained to be able to use properly in a vs. disscussion.
Exactly.

That's the like the whole point of the fight! You can explain nearly anything Ultimecia ever does with the phrase "time compression" and bam!

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