Homesuck: Vriska Rising - Page 1024

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 03-08-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EckScizor

So there's that theory about Dirk and Roxy living in a different time period proven. Also Jane did not prototype the sprite, per First Guardian intervention, yet she still entered the session without doing anything to an entry item. This session's already off the fucking rails and it's just started.

It's not off the rails, it's following the crazy fuckery that is paradox space rails perfectly.

Prototyping is a requirement for success if you need Skaia to advance.

IHateMakingNames · 03-08-2012, 01:25 PM

At the very end of the flash, is there a flash of Teen NotQuiteFeferi?

Edit - I answered my own question. Yes.

Locke cole · 03-08-2012, 01:27 PM

The hell? So, Dirk and Roxy are in the future? And their parents aren't dead in Jane's time period, I guess, which is why Jane didn't believe Roxy and... The hell is going on?

Arcanum · 03-08-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke cole

The hell? So, Dirk and Roxy are in the future? And their parents aren't dead in Jane's time period, I guess, which is why Jane didn't believe Roxy and... The hell is going on?

Just like how in the Beta session Nana and Grandpa Harley were sent further into the past than Mom and Bro, Jane and Jake were sent further into the past than Roxy and Dirk.

Also it looks like the reckoning won't be happening in their session.

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Ok epiphany/crazy idea time that just came to me while I was writing this post.

UU is from way in the future of THIS universe (well the Alpha kids universe). She has read about the exploits of the kids, and it all seems to be in a fairly positive light. Also, if we are to believe Doc Scratch and the story of the Sufferer, the troll ancestors (prescratch) lived in a world free of blood hierarchy.

Yet in the Alpha Universe it looks like the Condesce is rebuilding the troll empire, with plans to re-establish the blood hierarchy. Yet if the Condesce wins then there is no way that the stories about the Alpha kids would be heroic tales (unless UU is reading Prospitian literature from the Alpha kids session, but that seems unlikely). So it's safe to conclude the Alpha kids (with the help of the Beta kids) beat the Condesce, freeing trollified Earth from the blood hierarchy.

But then we have the question of how do the trolls repopulate? If there was a Mother Grub on Jake's deathmurder Island (I don't remember) then the Condesce had her repopulate the trolls. OTHERWISE, we already kn the matriorb hole pattern can be decoded from her worn down hat. If that second option is how they repopulate the trolls (either on Earth or another suitable planet) then those trolls would be free of the blood hierarchy.

IN OTHER WORDS: the post-scratch Kids universe is the same universe as the pre-scratch Troll universe. It's a Mobius Double Fucking Reacharound.

/crazy rant

(note: I know there are so many holes in this ridiculous theory, and I don't entirely believe this is what's really happening, but I'm putting it down in writing so that on the off chance that it's right, I can say I called it)

**Revising Ocelot** · 03-08-2012, 02:22 PM

There'll be a mini-reckoning for the frog temple and GCat and maybe the kids, but not much else I imagine. You don't need many meteors to take out a 3x3 chessboard Battlefield.

Taking bets on HIC starting her world flooding routine as Jake enters. That volcano's definitely not lit up in the future, but it was erupting in that one image from the EOA6I1.

Bloody acronyms.

Arcanum · 03-08-2012, 02:30 PM

But if the battlefield stays a 3x3 chessboard then there is no way for the Black King to win, therefore no way for him to start the reckoning. Also, the Reckoning hurls ALL the meteors in the Veil at Skaia until either A) the Reckoning is stopped, or B) the Veil runs out of meteors. So either the Reckoning was very short lived (entirely possible considering the Kings aren't going to be prototyped), or it never happens (more likely given the unwinnable scenario of the 3x3 chessboard as well as the Condesce's desire to not have her new planet destroyed).

Also there's no signs of meteor damage.

Also, there was no meteor on its way to hit Jane. It was just the Condesce's ship. So it's entirely possible that the other cruxtruders will count down to similar "you're going to die if you don't get into the session before time runs out" events, and not strictly meteors (meteors are just the common standard of the game when the session isn't going apeshit).

**Revising Ocelot** · 03-08-2012, 02:37 PM

Jack's "chilling" on Prospit in the presence of a scepter, and he loves his Reckonings.

The neighbourhoods of the Beta Kids didn't look particularly devastated around their times on Earth, and they had established the whole 'arrival via meteor' thing. But yeah, there was definitely no meteor heading towards Jane, hence my mini-Reckoning comment. There could just be very few meteors floating about the Veil in this session. It'd be entirely appropriate considering the session had already anticipated the lack of any prototypings with zero towers on Derse & Prospit.

Arcanum · 03-08-2012, 02:46 PM

Did the Alpha kids confirm their arrival by meteors? I'm always hazy on details of recent (like last 200-400) pages.

**Revising Ocelot** · 03-08-2012, 02:49 PM

Nope. Hence 'maybe the kids'.

Well, Dirk's aware of his lessthanstrictlybiological origins in one page or another, but there's nothing else.

Arcanum · 03-08-2012, 03:02 PM

Yeah so once again inclined to believe a reckoning never happens. Like, a reckoning is standard fare for a standard session. Yet nothing about this session is standard.

03-08-2012, 01:25 PM	#10232
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	At the very end of the flash, is there a flash of Teen NotQuiteFeferi? Edit - I answered my own question. Yes. __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi Last edited by IHateMakingNames; 03-08-2012 at 01:29 PM.

03-08-2012, 02:22 PM	#10235
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	There'll be a mini-reckoning for the frog temple and GCat and maybe the kids, but not much else I imagine. You don't need many meteors to take out a 3x3 chessboard Battlefield. Taking bets on HIC starting her world flooding routine as Jake enters. That volcano's definitely not lit up in the future, but it was erupting in that one image from the EOA6I1. Bloody acronyms. __________________ magic sucks

03-08-2012, 02:30 PM	#10236
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	But if the battlefield stays a 3x3 chessboard then there is no way for the Black King to win, therefore no way for him to start the reckoning. Also, the Reckoning hurls ALL the meteors in the Veil at Skaia until either A) the Reckoning is stopped, or B) the Veil runs out of meteors. So either the Reckoning was very short lived (entirely possible considering the Kings aren't going to be prototyped), or it never happens (more likely given the unwinnable scenario of the 3x3 chessboard as well as the Condesce's desire to not have her new planet destroyed). Also there's no signs of meteor damage. Also, there was no meteor on its way to hit Jane. It was just the Condesce's ship. So it's entirely possible that the other cruxtruders will count down to similar "you're going to die if you don't get into the session before time runs out" events, and not strictly meteors (meteors are just the common standard of the game when the session isn't going apeshit). __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.

03-08-2012, 02:37 PM	#10237
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	Jack's "chilling" on Prospit in the presence of a scepter, and he loves his Reckonings. The neighbourhoods of the Beta Kids didn't look particularly devastated around their times on Earth, and they had established the whole 'arrival via meteor' thing. But yeah, there was definitely no meteor heading towards Jane, hence my mini-Reckoning comment. There could just be very few meteors floating about the Veil in this session. It'd be entirely appropriate considering the session had already anticipated the lack of any prototypings with zero towers on Derse & Prospit. __________________ magic sucks

03-08-2012, 02:46 PM	#10238
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Did the Alpha kids confirm their arrival by meteors? I'm always hazy on details of recent (like last 200-400) pages. __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.

03-08-2012, 02:49 PM	#10239
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	Nope. Hence 'maybe the kids'. Well, Dirk's aware of his lessthanstrictlybiological origins in one page or another, but there's nothing else. __________________ magic sucks

03-08-2012, 03:02 PM	#10240
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Yeah so once again inclined to believe a reckoning never happens. Like, a reckoning is standard fare for a standard session. Yet nothing about this session is standard. __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.