Hatland Mafia - Page 11

Geminex · 10-25-2011, 03:59 PM

Okay, wow. Just got through the backlog. Again.

And while I'm not entirely sure if I trust Snake as much this time as I did last time, I would reeeeally advise against lynching him on the basis of "He writes too much" alone. I get that him establishing himself this way can come off as suspicious, but this might really just be a way of Snake being Snake. I don't think it's necessarily scummy.

Whether it's unproductive, or even unproductive enough to call for a policy lynch is another matter altogether, but it's 11 PM and I've got a test tomorrow and I really don't wanna get into this. See you all in the morning.

Geminex · 10-25-2011, 04:05 PM

Also, if I wake up to find that Snake's been lynched without further discussion, I will do an acrobatic goddamn pirouette off the handle.

Ravashak · 10-25-2011, 04:16 PM

Though it's tempting if you promise to record it and upload it to youtube, I have to agree with Geminex. While I personally prefer to make and read short consise posts, if Snake would do it, more warning bells would go off in my mind than i knew existed. It just wouldn't fit how I've seen Snake work so far.

That said, this is a mafia game, so there's no reason not to be critical of everyone. Just don't be the one to vote for a lynch on someone just because of the standard form of someone. If it's due to content, it's fine, obviously, though some explanation as to why seldom hurts.

In other news, unless I'm mistaken, we still lack posts from Moogle, Shyria and Viridis at this point. Hope they'll join the discussion soon, they might have some decent insight.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-25-2011, 04:31 PM

Snake's posting certainly seems different, but I'd need more of it.

FOS: Snake

He certainly seems to lack the same confidence as before at any rate. Also:

Unvote: p-sleazy

'cause it was really sorta a joke. Otherwise, Sif seems a bit odd for seeming to have roleclaimed? I mean, I don't think he's said his role but it looks like Fedora and thats a pretty important role because its the best hat. Also, Aldurin's post early on about being vanilla seems a bit off to me because I'd expect a GM to be more impartial than that. As in: assigns roles completely at random. If thats really what bookie sent him, than it would certainly be unorthodox.

Sifright · 10-25-2011, 04:34 PM

No i haven't role claimed, also it's supposed to be a tophat because tophats are swank. I had the idea of making a top hat for my avatar the moment I joined this mafia game in bookworms thread, kerensky just gave me the push to add it to the pic.

Shyria Dracnoir · 10-25-2011, 04:43 PM

##VOTE: P-sleazy

Cmon, it's in his name. Clearly he cannot be trusted. And just what was he doing in that lavatory? Conspiring with his mafia overlords?

Professor Smarmiarty · 10-25-2011, 05:42 PM

some thoughts on th enames that have been floated, long because I might bereally busy next two days:

Snake- Greg, Gem, Fen and Ravashak call out Kerensky and Ald for TL

R voting but that is a simplifcation of the case. It's not that Snake is posting wals of texxt- it's that he is posting walls of low information text. I count one detailed analysis from snake (post 60) and then a lot of random crap, particularly his calling out of everybody. Large amounts of long low-info posts make it difficult for the town to keep track and also breaks their interest. Thus he can appear to be helping while actually sabotaging the information flow of the town.
This is differnet from the last game where while he did ramble a lot and wasn't concise but his posts were all pretty high information. This game most of this posts have been reiinstating how good he is at mafia- possibly still riled up from the last game or trying to rile up others, particuarly myself, to take him on but alternatively just hiding behind his activity veneer.
He has maintained his post frequency from last game while completing changing his tone and his content.
That said I'm not convinced on a snake boot. Snake won't go in hiding so we will have lots of posts to work with. Not a high priority day 1 target and I'm not convinced he is scum. I could go either way but his drasitc change of behaviour does have me suspicious.

RPGDemon- Very active against Fenris, very confident- often a scum tell but not always and helping the town out at the moment by raising dialogue. I'm putting him as townie for now.

Aldurin- Suspicious as. Vanilla claim is classic newbie scum tactic and he is also confident and aggressive.
My only concern would be that he is inexperienced and the vanilla claim- the strongest evidence against him could be chalked up to that..
HOS: Aldurin
My main target so far.

Karesh: Also claimed a "low-choice" type role. Information to keep in mind.
Karesh's day 1 behaviour doesn't seem particularly out of character.

inactives- too early to tell. One to watch out for is Moogle- from old school games I remember him using UTR mafia tactics a lot and being reasonable active when town.

Bard The 5th LW · 10-25-2011, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sifright

No i haven't role claimed, also it's supposed to be a tophat because tophats are swank. I had the idea of making a top hat for my avatar the moment I joined this mafia game in bookworms thread, kerensky just gave me the push to add it to the pic.

Okay then my unofficial FOS is gone. Still stands for Earl and Snake though fore reasons already stated.

BahamutFlare · 10-25-2011, 05:57 PM

We could hypothesize what kind of low type roles Karesh could have? Vanilla town or mafia could always be an explanation.

While most of us have been trying to find leads, Shyria went a bit off topic with the (random?) for P-Sleazy. Although, she/he could very well have just not caught up with the entire topic yet. A bit hasty. P-Sleazy has been getting hit by a good amount random votes too at times spaced apart. Possible bandwagon attempt?

I think to the lavatory comment was directed at me since I was encouraged to look at D1 of MLP Mafia. In which people read in the bathroom.

Viridis · 10-25-2011, 06:02 PM

I think I agree with rpgdemon's thought that Snake's logic (TvTropes link, beware) doesn't really tell us much a lot of the time.

Beyond that, I don't really have much of a feel for who's what yet. Time will tell.

10-25-2011, 04:16 PM	#103
Ravashak hm? Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: South of the Sewer Posts: 286	Though it's tempting if you promise to record it and upload it to youtube, I have to agree with Geminex. While I personally prefer to make and read short consise posts, if Snake would do it, more warning bells would go off in my mind than i knew existed. It just wouldn't fit how I've seen Snake work so far. That said, this is a mafia game, so there's no reason not to be critical of everyone. Just don't be the one to vote for a lynch on someone just because of the standard form of someone. If it's due to content, it's fine, obviously, though some explanation as to why seldom hurts. In other news, unless I'm mistaken, we still lack posts from Moogle, Shyria and Viridis at this point. Hope they'll join the discussion soon, they might have some decent insight. __________________ Varjojen virta Kuolemaa kuljettaa Maa on harmaa Syd�n poissa taas

10-25-2011, 04:43 PM	#106
Shyria Dracnoir Kawaii-ju Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Monster Island Posts: 4,240	##VOTE: P-sleazy Cmon, it's in his name. Clearly he cannot be trusted. And just what was he doing in that lavatory? Conspiring with his mafia overlords? __________________ Godzilla vs. Gamera (1994)

10-25-2011, 05:42 PM	#107
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	some thoughts on th enames that have been floated, long because I might bereally busy next two days: Snake- Greg, Gem, Fen and Ravashak call out Kerensky and Ald for TLR voting but that is a simplifcation of the case. It's not that Snake is posting wals of texxt- it's that he is posting walls of low information text. I count one detailed analysis from snake (post 60) and then a lot of random crap, particularly his calling out of everybody. Large amounts of long low-info posts make it difficult for the town to keep track and also breaks their interest. Thus he can appear to be helping while actually sabotaging the information flow of the town. This is differnet from the last game where while he did ramble a lot and wasn't concise but his posts were all pretty high information. This game most of this posts have been reiinstating how good he is at mafia- possibly still riled up from the last game or trying to rile up others, particuarly myself, to take him on but alternatively just hiding behind his activity veneer. He has maintained his post frequency from last game while completing changing his tone and his content. That said I'm not convinced on a snake boot. Snake won't go in hiding so we will have lots of posts to work with. Not a high priority day 1 target and I'm not convinced he is scum. I could go either way but his drasitc change of behaviour does have me suspicious. RPGDemon- Very active against Fenris, very confident- often a scum tell but not always and helping the town out at the moment by raising dialogue. I'm putting him as townie for now. Aldurin- Suspicious as. Vanilla claim is classic newbie scum tactic and he is also confident and aggressive. My only concern would be that he is inexperienced and the vanilla claim- the strongest evidence against him could be chalked up to that.. HOS: Aldurin My main target so far. Karesh: Also claimed a "low-choice" type role. Information to keep in mind. Karesh's day 1 behaviour doesn't seem particularly out of character. inactives- too early to tell. One to watch out for is Moogle- from old school games I remember him using UTR mafia tactics a lot and being reasonable active when town.

10-25-2011, 03:59 PM	#101
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Okay, wow. Just got through the backlog. Again. And while I'm not entirely sure if I trust Snake as much this time as I did last time, I would reeeeally advise against lynching him on the basis of "He writes too much" alone. I get that him establishing himself this way can come off as suspicious, but this might really just be a way of Snake being Snake. I don't think it's necessarily scummy. Whether it's unproductive, or even unproductive enough to call for a policy lynch is another matter altogether, but it's 11 PM and I've got a test tomorrow and I really don't wanna get into this. See you all in the morning.

10-25-2011, 04:05 PM	#102
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Also, if I wake up to find that Snake's been lynched without further discussion, I will do an acrobatic goddamn pirouette off the handle.

10-25-2011, 04:31 PM	#104
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Snake's posting certainly seems different, but I'd need more of it. FOS: Snake He certainly seems to lack the same confidence as before at any rate. Also: Unvote: p-sleazy 'cause it was really sorta a joke. Otherwise, Sif seems a bit odd for seeming to have roleclaimed? I mean, I don't think he's said his role but it looks like Fedora and thats a pretty important role because its the best hat. Also, Aldurin's post early on about being vanilla seems a bit off to me because I'd expect a GM to be more impartial than that. As in: assigns roles completely at random. If thats really what bookie sent him, than it would certainly be unorthodox.

10-25-2011, 04:34 PM	#105
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	No i haven't role claimed, also it's supposed to be a tophat because tophats are swank. I had the idea of making a top hat for my avatar the moment I joined this mafia game in bookworms thread, kerensky just gave me the push to add it to the pic.

10-25-2011, 05:57 PM	#109
BahamutFlare Troopa Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 34	We could hypothesize what kind of low type roles Karesh could have? Vanilla town or mafia could always be an explanation. While most of us have been trying to find leads, Shyria went a bit off topic with the (random?) for P-Sleazy. Although, she/he could very well have just not caught up with the entire topic yet. A bit hasty. P-Sleazy has been getting hit by a good amount random votes too at times spaced apart. Possible bandwagon attempt? I think to the lavatory comment was directed at me since I was encouraged to look at D1 of MLP Mafia. In which people read in the bathroom.