Pokemon Umbral Discussion 27: Prepare For Trouble... - Page 11

Geminex · 06-07-2010, 07:47 PM

Yes. But see, emotion usually does not influence the outcome of a battle. I simply see "Rage points" as an abstract value for motivation and stamina and willingness to use incredibly strong attacks.

And even with follow me, it's situational at best. Particularly since a lot of enemy attacks are multi-target with accompanying status effects.

Dracorion · 06-07-2010, 08:52 PM

Misnomer.

And yeah, I do agree that Mollesk is very very wrong. For example, giving it Double Team for it's whopping Speed stat of 1 was a bad move. Should've put an attack instead.

Recover isn't really all that useful when you can have a Medic use a Full Restore on Mollesk. And like Gem said, Follow Me is very situational.

Geminex · 06-07-2010, 09:04 PM

Double team raises evasion. Not speed. It just makes it more defensible. AND GOOD THING TOO HOW ELSE WOULD IT SURVIVE IF IT DIDN'T HAVE LUDICROUS EVASION AS WELL AS LUDICROUS DEFENSES AND HIGH HP.

Astral Harmony · 06-07-2010, 09:30 PM

You're not getting more Rage by being pissed. Hell, Warriors in World of Warcraft don't get it, and considering what a player in World of Warcraft, especially a Warrior class, has to put up with, they deserve more Rage for that shit than you do for the shit you put up with.

Oh teh noes. Some super Pokebrid thing kicked your ass. Might not be the last time something like that happens, though I think that's the first and last time that the main formation was hopelessly outmatched.

By the next time you fight them, I'm sure you'll be amply equipped to fight them despite the fact that they are cheaters because they Chuck Norris'd the rules that you people are bound by.

Dracorion · 06-07-2010, 09:49 PM

Oh, come on! We could've taken them. We totally could've taken them. We probably would've had to pull Charlotte and Matthias back in favor of their Enforcers. Then concentrated on spreading the pain around, but targetting Regina in particular for being the weakest link.

Mind you, it wouldn't have been easy. The battle would've lasted forever and we would've taken heavy casualties. But we totally would've won.

And just let Cerulean Wildfire try to finish us off after beating Pokegeddon. We just beat a team that completely breaks the game! Gimmie your best shot.

Geminex · 06-07-2010, 09:53 PM

I don't mind them being strong!
Just that they cheat. Can they please not cheat? It's seriously no fun, otherwise. Make them as powerful as you like, but please let there be rules that they're restricted by.

And hey, if not for Gardenoir's "Look at me! you can't hit me because FUCK YOU", we would've totally stood a chance. Even without Lexhur, we still had one hell of a lot of stuff in reserve. Though admittedly, their habit of reviving after a turn would've eventually killed us.

Dracorion · 06-07-2010, 10:05 PM

Bah. That only means it was the kind of gimmick battle where you have to kill all the enemies at once. Totally doable.

Bard The 5th LW · 06-07-2010, 10:10 PM

Quote:

We probably would've had to pull Charlotte and Matthias back in favor of their Enforcers.

Now I'm sad because I'm a hindrance. )':

Dracorion · 06-07-2010, 10:22 PM

Not so much a hindrace as you have a Trainer for an Enforcer.

Geminex · 06-07-2010, 10:25 PM

They were hurting us pretty badly. I think we would've run out of pokemon and items before managing a 6-at-once kill. And let's not forget Regina.

And charlotte could have been useful. Spitz' superfang worked against our foes, meaning that he'd have been worth half a kill every turn.

06-07-2010, 08:52 PM	#102
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Misnomer. And yeah, I do agree that Mollesk is very very wrong. For example, giving it Double Team for it's whopping Speed stat of 1 was a bad move. Should've put an attack instead. Recover isn't really all that useful when you can have a Medic use a Full Restore on Mollesk. And like Gem said, Follow Me is very situational. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-07-2010, 09:49 PM	#105
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Oh, come on! We could've taken them. We totally could've taken them. We probably would've had to pull Charlotte and Matthias back in favor of their Enforcers. Then concentrated on spreading the pain around, but targetting Regina in particular for being the weakest link. Mind you, it wouldn't have been easy. The battle would've lasted forever and we would've taken heavy casualties. But we totally would've won. And just let Cerulean Wildfire try to finish us off after beating Pokegeddon. We just beat a team that completely breaks the game! Gimmie your best shot. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-07-2010, 10:05 PM	#107
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Bah. That only means it was the kind of gimmick battle where you have to kill all the enemies at once. Totally doable. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-07-2010, 10:22 PM	#109
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Not so much a hindrace as you have a Trainer for an Enforcer. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-07-2010, 07:47 PM	#101
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Yes. But see, emotion usually does not influence the outcome of a battle. I simply see "Rage points" as an abstract value for motivation and stamina and willingness to use incredibly strong attacks. And even with follow me, it's situational at best. Particularly since a lot of enemy attacks are multi-target with accompanying status effects.

06-07-2010, 09:04 PM	#103
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Double team raises evasion. Not speed. It just makes it more defensible. AND GOOD THING TOO HOW ELSE WOULD IT SURVIVE IF IT DIDN'T HAVE LUDICROUS EVASION AS WELL AS LUDICROUS DEFENSES AND HIGH HP.

06-07-2010, 09:30 PM	#104
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	You're not getting more Rage by being pissed. Hell, Warriors in World of Warcraft don't get it, and considering what a player in World of Warcraft, especially a Warrior class, has to put up with, they deserve more Rage for that shit than you do for the shit you put up with. Oh teh noes. Some super Pokebrid thing kicked your ass. Might not be the last time something like that happens, though I think that's the first and last time that the main formation was hopelessly outmatched. By the next time you fight them, I'm sure you'll be amply equipped to fight them despite the fact that they are cheaters because they Chuck Norris'd the rules that you people are bound by.

06-07-2010, 09:53 PM	#106
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	I don't mind them being strong! Just that they cheat. Can they please not cheat? It's seriously no fun, otherwise. Make them as powerful as you like, but please let there be rules that they're restricted by. And hey, if not for Gardenoir's "Look at me! you can't hit me because FUCK YOU", we would've totally stood a chance. Even without Lexhur, we still had one hell of a lot of stuff in reserve. Though admittedly, their habit of reviving after a turn would've eventually killed us.

06-07-2010, 10:25 PM	#110
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	They were hurting us pretty badly. I think we would've run out of pokemon and items before managing a 6-at-once kill. And let's not forget Regina. And charlotte could have been useful. Spitz' superfang worked against our foes, meaning that he'd have been worth half a kill every turn.