Talking about Final fantasy Main Characters

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

If Auron had explained everything from the start the best case scenario is that it would have changed literally nothing since you still would have had to go through basically all of the same shit as you grinded your way up to being able to kill Witchy McVengeance and Tidus's dad and the magic flying fartzoglyph and the actually likely scenario is that without having been dragged along on this entire ridiculous quest to see for themselves how stupid it is the cast of ridiculous sperglord children he was dealing with would have refused to listen to a goddamn thing he said and doubled down on believing in their stupid suicide pact and probably all gotten themselves killed by running off and not having him there to babysit them.

So instead he just follows them round, not really guiding them, wasting vast amounts of time where Sin is eating everyone just hoping hat somehow they will stumble onto a plan that has evaded everyone else in he world, hoping that noone decided to send the obviously undead character along he way which would have fucked everyone.
Auron was this super respected guardian, had beaten Sin before- just be like "Yo dudes, I got this plan to bea Sin 4eva, I've done it before just lisen to me or I'll ghostpossess your ass" and i would have been sweet.
Auron did fucking nohing, remove him from the game and apart from hte first bit very little changes.

[Krylo]

Auron was there for multiple sendings and ordered Yuna to perform them, and he got nothin' more than a mild discomfort from that shit.

There was no real risk of that.

Also, even IF they had all followed him if he had just told them all what was up, they'd have still had to go through the whole pilgrimage to get all the summons and power necessary to battle Sin. Not to mention figuring out a way to punch through his armor that wouldn't have happened without capture by the Al Bhed and shit.

So him telling them everything wouldn't have actually accomplished shit in the way of saving lives, just risked Wakka, Lulu, Kimahri, and Yuna telling him off for heresay. Which they may not have, but why take the risk?

Plus, he didn't actually HAVE a plan for killing Sin. That came later as a group effort along with the Al Bhed that they never would have met had they not gone stumbled through like normal.

And beyond that, I'm pretty sure he felt obligated to take something of a back seat because he was already dead. He left it up to everyone else whether or not to go through with doing Sin like everyone else had or risking everything to try to put the monster down for good.

[Kim]

Also, even were Smarty right about how you could remove him from the game and nothing changes, there are other FF characters this could probably apply to better, and he's hardly the worst among them. Off the top of my head: Penelo.

[Dracorion]

Wakka put Tidus in a headlock. Multiple times.

Best character in FFX right there.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Also, even were Smarty right about how you could remove him from the game and nothing changes, there are other FF characters this could probably apply to better, and he's hardly the worst among them. Off the top of my head: Penelo.

The only final fanasy games that count are ones that I have played. Obviously.

the problem with the whole "being denounced as a heretic" thing is that they didn't denounce any body else despite every religious character clearly being crazy heretical. After the parties being through machina as shit temples and seen everyone using guns then its pretty clear you can piss on Yevon and nobody will care.
And by going on a pilgrammage to get summons only Yuna gets any training- everyone thinks that summons will defeat Sin so the other dudes can just laze around, If I want to beat Sin in another way clearly you should be like "Yuna is going o get some summons, the rest of us are going to intensively train cause hey, guess what- we're fighing oo". The only training they get is beating up random animals that happen to come across their way. Putting all your hopes in the summoner when you know that doesn't work is fucking stupid as shit.
Just pull Tidus aside and be like "Hey tidus, you don't believe in this religion, well hey it's a stupid lie- you better get real good with that sword"- cause fucking Tidus doesn't give a shit about Yevon.

Like I can't figure out what Auron was going o do- let everyone just get slaughtered by Sin then be like "Shitttttt, maybe I should have mentioned something earlier. You had the same training as basically everybody in the world who goes anywhere and armies of them couldn't stop Sin but I had a crazzzzzzzy hunch.". Nobody had bea him before without the final Aeon, is he just assuming a group of people with no real training or preparation can do it?

[Yumil]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

The only final fanasy games that count are ones that I have played. Obviously.

the problem with the whole "being denounced as a heretic" thing is that they didn't denounce any body else despite every religious character clearly being crazy heretical. After the parties being through machina as shit temples and seen everyone using guns then its pretty clear you can piss on Yevon and nobody will care.
And by going on a pilgrammage to get summons only Yuna gets any training- everyone thinks that summons will defeat Sin so the other dudes can just laze around, If I want to beat Sin in another way clearly you should be like "Yuna is going o get some summons, the rest of us are going to intensively train cause hey, guess what- we're fighing oo". The only training they get is beating up random animals that happen to come across their way. Putting all your hopes in the summoner when you know that doesn't work is fucking stupid as shit.
Just pull Tidus aside and be like "Hey tidus, you don't believe in this religion, well hey it's a stupid lie- you better get real good with that sword"- cause fucking Tidus doesn't give a shit about Yevon.

Like I can't figure out what Auron was going o do- let everyone just get slaughtered by Sin then be like "Shitttttt, maybe I should have mentioned something earlier. You had the same training as basically everybody in the world who goes anywhere and armies of them couldn't stop Sin but I had a crazzzzzzzy hunch.". Nobody had bea him before without the final Aeon, is he just assuming a group of people with no real training or preparation can do it?

His whole goal was to get Tidus there and make sure Tidus was prepared to face his father. He didn't give a shit about the rest of the party, he was banking on tidus having an effect on Jecht.

[Jagos]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

The only final fanasy games that count are ones that I have played. Obviously.

the problem with the whole "being denounced as a heretic" thing is that they didn't denounce any body else despite every religious character clearly being crazy heretical. After the parties being through machina as shit temples and seen everyone using guns then its pretty clear you can piss on Yevon and nobody will care.
And by going on a pilgrammage to get summons only Yuna gets any training- everyone thinks that summons will defeat Sin so the other dudes can just laze around, If I want to beat Sin in another way clearly you should be like "Yuna is going o get some summons, the rest of us are going to intensively train cause hey, guess what- we're fighing oo". The only training they get is beating up random animals that happen to come across their way. Putting all your hopes in the summoner when you know that doesn't work is fucking stupid as shit.
Just pull Tidus aside and be like "Hey tidus, you don't believe in this religion, well hey it's a stupid lie- you better get real good with that sword"- cause fucking Tidus doesn't give a shit about Yevon.

Like I can't figure out what Auron was going o do- let everyone just get slaughtered by Sin then be like "Shitttttt, maybe I should have mentioned something earlier. You had the same training as basically everybody in the world who goes anywhere and armies of them couldn't stop Sin but I had a crazzzzzzzy hunch.". Nobody had bea him before without the final Aeon, is he just assuming a group of people with no real training or preparation can do it?

Ok, seriously... Everyone was there to protect Yuna. Tidus' whiny crap, Lulu's cleavage, Rikku's annoyance, Auron's Badassedness (even if he had an ulterior motive), Kimahri's muteness, and Wakka's zealotry, were just there to make sure that Yuna gets to make Sin a dream for 10 years.

Let's truly think about the teaching of Yu Yevon for a bit. It was used to control the populace and not question too much the inner workings. Was it hypocritical? Sure as shooting, but how many people actually got to see all of the insides of all of the temples?

Even Yuna herself was whipped trained pretty early on to accept her fate. And her fate was to destroy Sin, which no one else could do. That kind of a lot for one person to truly understand, much less have to make a decision on without anyone telling her otherwise.