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Unread 10-09-2011, 12:07 PM   #1101
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Unread 10-09-2011, 12:08 PM   #1102
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If so, that seems like a bad idea. If we're going on the assumption that Nik is lying about being the PO, then that means the only exposed power role is me, and with the lack of information we currently have I don't think potentially exposing the vig and PO are worth it at this point (not to mention the Doc if we have one in addition to the bodyguard).
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Unread 10-09-2011, 12:17 PM   #1103
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If so, that seems like a bad idea. If we're going on the assumption that Nik is lying about being the PO, then that means the only exposed power role is me, and with the lack of information we currently have I don't think potentially exposing the vig and PO are worth it at this point (not to mention the Doc if we have one in addition to the bodyguard).
Yes and No. See a mass role claim of the town power roles at this point gives us targets to avoid. The mafia can only kill one a Night although with the SK we could lose two. Which given the people who I know to be town gives up to seven People who are likely to be town. So mass role claiming at this point COULD be very beneficial to us. If we do have a doctor still alive though don't roleclaim unless we are about to lynch you mistakenly.

So pros, with a full roleclaim of the town powers (barring doctor) we have a list of people to avoid lynching unless there are counter claims which would give us a list of mafia any way. Secondly from that list we would have a much smaller set of candidates for the Mafia and SK.

Cons, we could lose the rest of the town power roles in one or two nights depending on whether we have a doctor remaining or not.

So it's up to every one else to decide whether a mass role claim is a good idea, I'm kind of in favour of it but we should aim for a very high consensus rate before that is deployed.
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Unread 10-09-2011, 12:31 PM   #1104
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Unread 10-09-2011, 12:34 PM   #1105
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So pros, with a full roleclaim of the town powers (barring doctor) we have a list of people to avoid lynching unless there are counter claims which would give us a list of mafia any way. Secondly from that list we would have a much smaller set of candidates for the Mafia and SK.
Assuming the SK can aim properly it's likely he/she would be going for Mafiate candidates at this point. Part of being on your own means at some point you need to weaken both sides. Not just the town.
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Unread 10-09-2011, 01:47 PM   #1106
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So pros, with a full roleclaim of the town powers (barring doctor) we have a list of people to avoid lynching unless there are counter claims which would give us a list of mafia any way. Secondly from that list we would have a much smaller set of candidates for the Mafia and SK.

Cons, we could lose the rest of the town power roles in one or two nights depending on whether we have a doctor remaining or not.
It wouldn't quite work that way. If we have someone who claims a role, for example, someone else claiming the same role doesn't prove who's scum and who's town. It just means that the scum get to obfuscate the results, while seeing who's who.

I'm not sure how the math works out on losing two guaranteed townies a day, then narrowing down who we lose to essentially a 50/50 shot at scum on the other days, but I think we lose that race.
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Unread 10-09-2011, 01:52 PM   #1107
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Sk won't keep killing townies or he ends up losing the game when there is nothing but mafia left, also once we have killed one mafia player we learn alot more about who the other mafia players are.


Edit: I wasn't suggesting we murder off every player that doesn't role claim a power role especially if we have something silly like 5 counter claims on roles.
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Unread 10-09-2011, 02:32 PM   #1108
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The roleblock does certainly stack against Nikose's guilt, but it seems that the SK and Mafia both targeted the same person rather than the mafia not killing anyone, if I interpret the NightmareMoon/Cackatrice combo appearance correctly. So if anything, the SK and Mafia are thinking alike.

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Unread 10-09-2011, 05:27 PM   #1109
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Yes and No. See a mass role claim of the town power roles at this point gives us targets to avoid. The mafia can only kill one a Night although with the SK we could lose two. Which given the people who I know to be town gives up to seven People who are likely to be town. So mass role claiming at this point COULD be very beneficial to us. If we do have a doctor still alive though don't roleclaim unless we are about to lynch you mistakenly.

So pros, with a full roleclaim of the town powers (barring doctor) we have a list of people to avoid lynching unless there are counter claims which would give us a list of mafia any way. Secondly from that list we would have a much smaller set of candidates for the Mafia and SK.

Cons, we could lose the rest of the town power roles in one or two nights depending on whether we have a doctor remaining or not.

So it's up to every one else to decide whether a mass role claim is a good idea, I'm kind of in favour of it but we should aim for a very high consensus rate before that is deployed.
Nikose is a cop isn't he? Someone had a quote that showed nikose saying he'll investigate someone.
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Unread 10-09-2011, 05:29 PM   #1110
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I don't know whether there is a facepalm big enough for verifiedz. Are you actually reading the read dude? Like, at all? Because part of playing this game is having to read what's going on and understanding what's going on.
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