5 minute poetry

[Nikose Tyris]

((removed on the grounds people don't trust my professional curtoesy. which pisses me off. no more poems posted here until the sting wears off.))


((To any and all (other than mods) who decide to say how this poem has a religous tone in it: You have no life, you respect no one, and deserve to have the curse of a thousand Jehova's witnesses at your door daily.))

EDIT: [I just found out that this poem was written before. WHAT ARE THE FUCKING ODDS???? seriously, I swear by all I know, I wrote this last night on my laptop. apparently, a boy named Packman wrote it before me. this is creepy. just wanted to tell everyone.}

[RaiRai]

You mean to say you wrote the 'exact' same poem as someone who has written it before you?

[Nikose Tyris]

appearantely 5 words are different. ask BMG, she knows about it.

also, I figured the odds out; there is a 1 in 2million and 47 chance of it occuring. I swear on ALL that is holy I didn't steal it; I figured that would be everyone's first claim, when I found out from BMG.

[RaiRai]

Actually, the odds are probably even higher. Only 5 words out of a 17 line poem? Unlikely and highly impossible. I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. I'd recommend that you take the poem down, as it may cause offense to the person who'd wrote the 'first' copy of the poem.

[Nikose Tyris]

I refuse on the grounds I put much effort into the poem, and while unlikely and well-nigh impossible, I have done nothing to say I am a liar, and while I know the situation is unlikely, I have a few references to prove that I don't steal other people's work.

[RaiRai]

Look, I'm not asking you, I'm telling you.

I've seen the original post, and I do not believe your disclaimer. I do not believe that you just happened to think up this poem without prior viewing of it beforehand. I am discussing this matter with other moderators at current.

[Nikose Tyris]

*sticks out tongue in spite*
[edit] I changed my mind. here's something for you:

what do you do when there is nothing left
when all you believed and hoped in is dead
what do you do when all is for naught
when your whole life is hole-filled plot

when the dark is attacking
you can't fight back
it rips you and beats you
and bleeds you till your dead

when light fills your life
remember it is false
it is a fake, a lie,
a big horrible farce.

when the light begins to fade
and the dark begins anew
slip these words to your heart
and hold them high as true

The darkness is a falsity,
the light a greater joke
the life of all is worthless
when the life of one is staked.

hold yourself above all else
above your so-called friends
do whatever it takes to keep things right
but in the end-- win.

((I am trying hard to keep from saying something that will get me in trouble. I am pissed, and I feel it neccessary to post and explain why. I wrote that poem for Hannah, my best friend, last night on my laptop. I sent it to BMG who then told me that it was belonging to someone else, and she found and showed me the poem. I feel upset that a work I put so much of my heart into is being told it's phony, on the grounds that someone else felt the same thing, and by a freak accident posted the EXACT same thing. It leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth.))

[Kurosen]

also, I figured the odds out; there is a 1 in 2million and 47 chance of it occuring.

Actually, no. It's impossible for this to "just happen". Not unlikely. Not one a million. Impossible. The way language works it simply cannot be done. That these poems have exactly the same non-normative puncuation and format alone ought to be damning enough. But then to have all the same words? The only way for that to happen is plagiarism.



The original was 193 words. You claim yours had 5 that were different (though I found 0). But we'll assume your 5 out of 193 to give you the best case possible. That's a 2% difference. If we plot that on the above graph you get a nearly 100% chance that it's a rip off.

If you did this in college, you'd fail the course (at best) and you'd get no chance to explain yourself because there's no reason to because that it happened is proof that you stole it.

I suggest you drop it, learn that you can't get away with this, not try it again, and hope the people who see this forget it ever happened. There is no way to defend yourself. It is not a "coincidence." I've been writing for 15 years and I have never heard of this happening to anyone ever.

that someone else felt the same thing, and by a freak accident posted the EXACT same thing

You do not "happen" to write exactly what someone else already has. The best you can hope for is to change your defense to "Oh yeah, I remember reading that now, gosh, I must've subconsciously remembered it when I was writing."

[Viper Daimao]

look kid, you're getting pretty bent out of shape about this. its just a freakin poem.

even if what you say is true and you wrote the exact same poem with the exact same punctuation marks, surely you can appreciate our disbelief that this would happen. as it stands now, it seems as though you doth protest too much.

so stop getting all bent out of shape about a piece of writing and us not believing that it was a freak 1 in a billion coincidence.

[Nikose Tyris]

allow me to show you my position, as my friends who back me are encouraging: statistics lie. I wrote this WHILE HANNAH WAS NEXT TO ME. I think I'm a good enough writer not to have to rip somebody off. and while I don't write comedy, nor will I become very popular, I do have people who trust me, and know this is truth. I feel upset and hurt that those people I considered to be aquaintances and possible friends, refuse to believe that a freak accident could have caused this. especially since BMG told me not to tell you guys about it, and I went ahead and posted that Someone else apparently wrote it before CAUSE I'M HONORABLE.

So, while this is my postition, I shall retain it as mine, not publish it with my other writings, and dedicate it to the people who believe and trust me.

and to those who don't, I am sorry you cannot see that sometimes freak conincidences happen, and that they are no one's fault, nor does it mean someone stole something. it's called coinciedence. also, see Chaos theory; there is room within the confines of chaos theory for this to happen.

*sighs* I'm done. do as you will to me now, for now I am out of both ammunition for my arguement, and patience to maintain it. I have dropped the subject, lest it is reopened.