Pokemon Umbral Discussion 25: Pokegeddon Returns

[Menarker]

Mind you, if they do heavy damage, our morale gauge might sink quite a bit. My technique, if used in high amount, also practically negates morale loss for a turn.

Plus, Harriette gains double rage. In addition to being a slayer, that is going to give her a lot back when she hits or get hit. And when someone gives her a rocket booster, she'll get 50 instead of 25.

[Dracorion]

Their morale will drop quicker if we do Signature Techniques after Signature Techniques after Signature Techniques. That means having RPs.

Normally, I'd argue that we shouldn't spend Harliette's RPs so that we can just have her use her Signature Technique every other turn. But she's bound to be a priority target anyway, so what the hell. Let's have 'er spend those RPs. Everyone else's RPs? Yeah, no. At least not Matthias' and Charlotte's.

[Menarker]

AB: If I wanted to have Renny take an item from a medic's infinite stash (for the purpose of his item technique), would that take an action of some sort?

Had the thought of Renny pumping almost the entire party with 25 rage this turn (instead of protect) this turn, giving some offensive power.
Rachel next turn double pumping Renny with rocket boosters (the way she is doing for Impact this turn), Renny use one of his pokemon's attack actions to take a booster from Rachel and giving everyone another 5-6 people 25 rage and repeat each turn. During turns when the party is really hurt, Renny does Full Restore instead of booster.


Thus a different plan would be

Renny: Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Frossqueen and Artarisect, Swampert to wait to Mimic Stone Edge on Frossqueen. Has 95 Rage. Use Prosperous Gifts with his Rocket Booster item. Give 25 rage to himself and 8 other people. (End rage is 30)

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage. (Gets 25 rage due to Renny. End up with 60 rage.)

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower. (Get 25 Rage due to Renny. End Phase with 35 Rage.)

Charlotte: Spitz' Super Fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash. (End with 100 rage.)

Pierce: Get 25 Rage. Hit 100. Activate Co-Op Technique? (Can you use a Co-Op technique and still do your normal attacks?)
Otherwise stick with original plan, which is : Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen.

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina. (Get 25 rage. End with 70 RP)

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir. (End with 95 rage.)

Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage. End with 50 rage.) Maybe get him to build a device or evolith?

Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage. End phase with 95 Rage.)

Trainer Attacks at Pegidash. If it's dead, target Frossqueen.

I'm taking in account the altered Rage from Slayers getting double and what you guys would get from attacking.

[Dracorion]

I'm pretty sure we shouldn't be able to take tems from the Medic. But hey, ask away.

[Menarker]

Alternative plan for first turn. (Especially useful if AB say we can take an item from a medic at a cost of an action or so.) Only slightly different (Mainly allowing Pierce and Charlotte to do their signature techniques and Renny doing Propserous Gifts instead.)


Renny: Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Frossqueen and Artarisect, Swampert to wait to Mimic Stone Edge on Frossqueen. Has 95 Rage. Spends 80 rage to use Prosperous Gifts with his Rocket Booster item. Give 25 rage to himself and 7 other people. (End rage is 40)

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage. (Gets 25 rage due to Renny. End up with 60 rage.)

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower. (Get 25 Rage due to Renny. End Phase with 35 Rage.)

Charlotte: Spitz' Super Fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash. (Renny gives her 25 rage. End with 100 rage.) Unless Charlotte wants to do her Relationship Technique? Or Co-Op technique if that's allowed with pokemon attacking on the same turn. (End with 0 rage)

Pierce: Get 25 Rage from Renny. Hit 100. Activate Co-Op Technique? (Can you use a Co-Op technique and still do your normal attacks?)
Otherwise stick with original plan, which is : Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen. (If you can attack after you do the Co-Op technique, you end with 10 rage. Otherwise, you end with 0)

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina. (Get 25 rage from Renny. End with 70 RP)

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir. (End with 95 rage. Renny didn't give her rage.) She COULD do her signature technique, but that's questionable since her damage is random and we're probably relying on her to knock out Pegidash.

Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage from Renny. End with 50 rage.) Maybe get him to build a device or evolith?

Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage from Renny. End phase with 95 Rage.)

Trainer Attacks at Pegidash. If it's dead, target Frossqueen.



I'm taking in account the altered Rage from Slayers getting double for this turn and what you guys would get from attacking with pokemons and all that.

Does Rachel have to pay 25 rage to use her second item? I didn't see any clarification. If she doesn't, she ends turn with 85 rage instead. Excuse me if I missed something.
Cause what I saw was

- The Medic has the ability to leave combat and use two items instead of taking an action and using only one item. The leader(s) can decide when the Medic actually uses these items, which is usually best after the leader sees what the enemy does. However, the leader must decide during the Ally Phase if the medic will leave combat to use two items. Medics can spend 25/100 Rage Points to use additional items.

[Dracorion]

I think it means they have to spend 25 Rage to use a third item.

I think Co-Ops only take one action. So Pierce could use Hellfire, then have Tyranitar use Stone Edge.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I don't actually have a co-op technique for Charlotte as of now. Unless you mean Future Shock. I'm not sure which one is which right now.

Need an enforcer to. Going to look through the dataase now for one. Get back to you guys in 7 minutes.

[Menarker]

In that case... We could have Wilhelmina hold off her attack for a sec (she is at 60 rage.) Rachel pays 25 rage to use a 3rd item, a rocket booster on Wilhelmina. Renny gives her 25 rage as well. Giving her 100 rage. Wilhelmina activate Hell on Honymrr.

Also Bard, the following Enforcers are taken: Cecilia, Misha, Kurika.
Co-Op is the one that involves your pokemon with another of your pokemon (or yourself).
Relationship is the one that Charlotte does with another NPC or maybe PC.

[Dracorion]

Wilhelmina will be a 95 Rage just with your Rage Rocket. And she gets to use an attack to bring her up to 100. We can have her use her Signature Technique next turn.

[Menarker]

Well, I'd thought you'd want fast powerful damage. If we do it the way I proposed, we can add an extra attack, and both her attacks will be boosted by 5 stages for this turn. It's only a cost of 25 rage, which is practically already paid for by Renny's Prosperous Gift (which only costed 10 rage per person). So the benefits are huge for a small cost.

Anyhow, I won't have time to hang around much longer today. Work called me in early and asked me to work until later. >_<

Looking forward to see what your choice is.