Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy continues Squeenix's tradition of stupid titles

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Liquid Snake

Actually, by your logic there Cloud, Sephiroth and Tifa might make more sense with Cloud as the "swing character." (Possessed and/or manipulated by Sephiroth.)

Originally Posted by POS Industries

He's got you there, Bluesy!

EDIT: Oh man, I just remembered bonus days! Yeah, turn that shit off in PvP battles, plox.

Nope! Cloud isn't manipulated by Sephy; he's manipulated by Jenova. Jenova isn't in this game.


In all seriousness, Cloud isn't going to be a swing character because he's supposed to be the hero and has already fought for the good guys. Jenova's control over him is always temporary and could be argued to heavily rely on his already-fractured psyche, which is ambiguous in the context of Dissidia because it never comes up to my knowledge and it's indicated Aerith is already dead at the point in the game he came from.

[POS Industries]

And Jenova's manipulated by Sephiroth!

We're just cutting out the middle-alien!

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

And Jenova's manipulated by Sephiroth!

We're just cutting out the middle-alien!

Technically, there are some pretty strong indications that it's the other way around, given that Jenova holds control over anything containing her cells. Sephiroth was made with them and thus falls under that category, along with some visual hints in the final battle where it supposedly looks like Jenova's arms are moving like a puppeteer's above Sephy's head, not that I've seen it for myself.

Regardless, see my edit.

[Regulus Tera]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

Yeah, I agree with that. I'm just concerned as to how many more characters from each game they can feasibly add to a PSP UMD.

Get rid of the dull overtly long character pieces from the story mode that nobody liked and you get rid of almost twenty hours of voice acting and cutscene data that's ultimately pointless.

That should free enough space for another ten characters or so.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Get rid of the dull overtly long character pieces from the story mode that nobody liked and you get rid of almost twenty hours of voice acting and cutscene data that's ultimately pointless.

That should free enough space for another ten characters or so.

Actually, a better estimate would be that it frees up as much data for characters as would be spread across the average amount of data for move sets and battle lines. Speaking completely out of my ass, I'd guess that all data treated equal, the average character takes roughly 5 minutes worth of data, so the real benefit would be somewhere in the rough ballpark of 240, being generous. Even if it's closer to 10, that's still 120 characters.


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[Regulus Tera]

I'm wondering if we'll finally get a catgirl, considering this is coming out after FFXIV.

[POS Industries]

They had catgirls in FFXI too, so I wouldn't hold your breath.

[Regulus Tera]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

They had catgirls in FFXI too, so I wouldn't hold your breath.

We didn't get them only because Nomura or whomever had a midget fetish. It's time to serve another audience.

[Nique]

Sheesh thread exploded wile I was away.

Firstly;

Originally Posted by POS

Unfortunately, it was a terrible game that everyone hated

I loved DoC. I mean, I'm not saying it wasn't flawed ... Janky camera if i remember... but it was a lot of fun so I don't know where this is coming from.

Now, going back and forth through all the speculation here, I think it's probably going to be pretty hard to predict who else might show up. I mean, for one the game isn't going to worry about specific details from the character's original games so much as attempting to reflect the vague-ass 'spirit' of the original. That means dead characters like Aerith could make an appearance regardless of how much sense it makes, and Sephiroth could manipulate Cloud, etc. Really whatever they wanted to do.

And as far as picking characters it seems that the villain lineup was created to properly motivate the heroes. So Jecht instead of Seymore or Sin, Golbez instead of whoever FFIV's actual villain was. The only one I can't really figure out is Ultimecia over some modified version of Seifer. I might agree with blues about not duplicating Squall's fighting style, but Ultimecia seemed very similar to Cloud of Darkness as a floaty mage-thing so I dunno.

I'd like to see a really comprehensive lineup but here's my picks, assuming they will do another even lineup of hero/villain from each game:

FF
Hero: Red Mage
Villain: Astos

FF II
Hero: Maria
Villain: Leon (probably a swing character like Jecht or Golbez)

FF III
Hero: Possibly Luneth but maybe Refia as a female Onion Knight ala' the DS release.
Villain: Xande (the only other effective main villain)

FFIV
Hero: Kain (Since they already revealed it)
Villain: Zemus

FFV
Hero: Farris becuase she is a badass
Villain: Gilgamesh becuase he makes appearances in other FFs so that could make for interesting reactions from the other heroes

FFVI
Hero: Locke
Villain: Celes

FFVII
Hero: Tifa. I don't think they're going to bother making guns trying to work in this game so Barret and Vincent are out.
Villain: Jenova in one of her more attractive forms, with the tentacle monsters being an EX form

FFVIII
Hero: Rinoa. Fuck you, that's why.
Villain: I'm gonna say Seifer becuase choosing Edea would be stupid

FFIX
Hero: I honestly don't know anyone who doesn't like Vivi
Villain: General Beatrix seems possible but isn't she basically a Celes clone?

FFX
Hero: Auron
Villain: Seymore

FFXII
Hero: Fran. Please oh please let it be Fran.
Villain: Vayne, probably.

Seems like some characters from DoC, X-2, or some of the other spin offs could make an appearance too.

[mudah.swf]

The solution to all the space issues is the port the game to an actual console. Even an XBLA/PSN release will do.