Ex-cop manhunt in LA; tragedy ensues

[Solid Snake]

Originally Posted by Jagos

Solid, have you ever been discriminated against?

Have you ever seen the worst the system has to offer to the weakest citizen?

Have you ever wanted to fight back against that imbalance in any way?

I'm a very fortunate beneficiary of privilege, it's true. It's nice to finally see many of you who've previously blasted social justice terminology actually advance an attempt at a social justice argument, though.

Here are a few questions for you:

1: How many people in America are discriminated against in this country?

2: How many of those people, no matter their circumstances, subsequently resort to killing innocent people to prove the unjust corruption in the system?

Logically speaking, your arguments would give a blank check to anyone who feels oppressed to murder civilians. Now, think this through. Everyone has different definitions of what it means to be 'oppressed.' Many of those definitions are factually inaccurate; there are people in this country who'd believe that gun control regulations would oppress them. Nonetheless, your attitude would support their personal interpretation of that 'oppression' as a right to seek violent retribution.

Lots and lots of people illegitimately lose their jobs and, if they all respond like Dorner did, there'd be lots and lots of workplace shootings.

Even still, there's a huge difference between what Dorner's doing here, and what it'd be like if, for example, oppressed minorities gathered together and declared an armed revolution against privileged institutions. As I said before: Dorner has no ideological agenda. He is NOT seeking reform of the LAPD. He is merely seeking to clear his own name. His manifesto explicitly states this.

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I'm a very fortunate beneficiary of privilege, it's true. It's nice to finally see many of you who've previously blasted social justice terminology actually advance an attempt at a social justice argument, though.

Here are a few questions for you:

1: How many people in America are discriminated against in this country?

2: How many of those people, no matter their circumstances, subsequently resort to killing innocent people to prove the unjust corruption in the system?[/I][/B]

Good to see you are still not reading what people are saying.

Keep on attacking those strawmans.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I'm a very fortunate beneficiary of privilege, it's true.

It shows.

[Solid Snake]

I was massively incredulous that you were IGNORANT of what the LAPD has done.

I'm not from the Los Angeles metropolitan area and I've never even visited the state of California, unless you count an airport. Even assuming that my ignorance is in fact deplorable, why not do what Magus did and link me to substantive articles on the subject, as opposed to just continually insulting my intelligence like an immature preschooler?

That you deem none of my posts to have any substantive worth is entirely due to your warped perceptions of me and personally you can get fucked.

...Oh, I guess this is why. You're not interested in a discussion. You just want a flamewar.

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...Oh, I guess this is why. You're not interested in a discussion. You just want a flamewar.

Hahaha, you giant hypocrite

Yes. Your previous posts are nothing more than an angry, incoherent series of rants, often lacking an iota of actual analysis and instead riding solely the surfboard of your impressive degree of rage.

Hahahaaaaaaa Yea.

Snake buddy, if people in europe off the street could tell you about the LA race riots and what precipitated it and bunch of other shit forgive me for holding a US citizen to a higher standard.

[POS Industries]

Gonna go ahead and (possibly temporarily) close the thread. I think things are getting overly heated and it would be a fantastic idea for everyone to take some time to cool off before we decide to resume this discussion.

[synkr0nized]

Originally Posted by Sifright

I can sum this post up as "HEEEEEEERRRRP"

Because thats exactly the level of critical thought you've applied here.

Originally Posted by Sifright

That you deem none of my posts to have any substantive worth is entirely due to your warped perceptions of me and personally you can get fucked.

[...]

That you are so in love with your own ego that you can't look things up your self on google when a cursory examination will find rafts of evidence of their misdeeds also doesn't surprise me because you are a narcissistic twat.

Well.
Take some time to reconsider what it means to enjoy the privilege of posting here and of forming discussion rather than insulting other forum members.

[McTahr]

Please remember when discussing heavier topics that the people you are discussing with are just that: People. That person who you think is an utter monster cockbag horsefucker for believing the incredulous things you think they are saying is much less a monster cockbag horsefucker and much more a human being of dissenting opinion and possibly even just a monster cockbag horsefucker purely in your mind because of a misinterpretation on your part.

Just because this is the internet age and everything travels at the speed of information does not mean that you need to get your post out there as soon as possible. Take your time, read the posts of those whose opinions do not match your own more than once, and respond calmly and without derision. All of the rules still apply, especially:

Originally Posted by NPF Administration

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[synkr0nized]

Oh Christ, there's already a someone-is-leaving-'cause-the-mods-suck thread? My bad for not checking NPF every hour?

Regardless, if you cannot argue against someone's point without name calling and flaming, you're going to lose discussion privileges if not posting privileges altogether.