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Unread 10-22-2011, 01:52 AM   #131
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Diaz is rapidly bleeding any and all credibility he has ever had.

Does this guy just not get it or what?
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Unread 10-22-2011, 01:58 AM   #132
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(Batman’s been handled better than a lot of DC’s other properties)
I will never stop laughing.

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okay even ignoring the rest of his horrible robin redesign

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Batman and Robin should always have a Bad Cop/Good Cop relationship.
Screw that. Damian and Bruce are my second favorite Batman/Robin team.

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Unread 10-22-2011, 08:32 PM   #133
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1) Make each character unique, in both personality & appearance

2) Each character should have something unique and useful to offer (ie: no one should be redundant)
Diaz' reboot proposals aim principally at those who don't know who Damian Wayne is and probably never will. This isn't a revision of comics as currently published, it's doing in comics what every animated show based on comics does as a matter of course. Remember when animated Superman made Brainiac a robot? Before that Brainiac was a circus dude who was possessed by a genius alien and/or said alien himself.

The whole point of Diaz' approach to rebooting is to not take anything in current continuity for granted and only introduce characters that he judges necessary. The reason Diaz' Grodd is just like the present Ultra-Humanite is because Diaz thinks the Humanite is a better idea & Grodd is a better name, so of Grodd, Humanite, and Monsieur Mallah, only Grodd's name and Humanite's concept survives. You don't have three (plus an entire city) different talking gorillas, five robins, 5 green lanterns from earth, god alone knows how many flashes, etc. One of each.

DC has a villain who is a super-intelligent psychic gorilla whose origin is that he is an exiled felon from Gorilla City, whose entire population is intelligent psychic gorillas. They think people might have trouble taking that seriously, and their general solution is to make it a grimdarky city full of intelligent psychic gorillas. Diaz' approach is to jettison the idea of a super-intelligent psychic gorilla from psychic intellectual gorilla city and have an idea that's less "out-there."

There's a little Chris Sims in me who really likes the giant mind control space starfishes & Who's Whos of comicdom, but I'm not going to kid myself that anything short of burning continuity to the ground & starting over is going to change the fact that people who can bring themselves to continue to give a shit about comics are an ever-shrinking rump minority of nerds. There's just too fucking much OF it for even a nerd to keep track of, and they insist on having Slade Wilson continue to call himself "Deathstroke the Terminator" years after his first name has proven to be more credibly sinister & intimidating.

If someone actually pulled the trigger on a Diazboot of DC I would probably like it the way I like most of DCs animated continuities.
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Unread 10-23-2011, 05:39 PM   #134
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That Robin looks more like...a Red Arrow to me!

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Unread 10-23-2011, 06:31 PM   #135
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Unread 11-06-2011, 08:50 PM   #136
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So... The New 52 seems to be a success. DC has dominated sales for the months that the reboot has been going on and the reception for a lot of the new series has been pretty positive with the good outweighing the bad. I've got twelve series from the relaunch on my pull-list with a couple other series that I pick up irregularly.

And I think we can form a consensus on which series suck. I'll start:

Superman is some wordy bullshit. The writing is mediocre at best but there's so much of it that drowns the art instead of letting it speak for itself. This is an awful series with bad writing and bad art.

Red Hood and the Outlaws is a concept with potential and awful writing that is painful to read if only because it wastes some good art.
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You missed Batgirl. How did you miss Batgirl?
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Unread 11-08-2011, 10:48 PM   #138
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Read Hawk & Dove. It will make everything else look amazing.

Like Rob Liefeld just straight up used mutant zombies as an antagonist completely unironically.
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Unread 11-08-2011, 11:20 PM   #139
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You missed Batgirl. How did you miss Batgirl?
I quit reading after the first issue so I thought I best leave the thrashing up to someone who went a little further than me.

Really though, fuck that book for replacing Stephanie Brown's.
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Unread 11-09-2011, 01:29 AM   #140
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Half this thread has been me bitching about Batgirl. I really don't think we missed it.
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