[DISCUSS] Gaston is better than the Beast - Page 14

Krylo · 12-27-2011, 03:54 AM

The jedi are dumb in a lot of ways. I mean if they would have just let Anakin fuck Padme when he wanted there'd have been no Jedi Purge, no Darth Vader, and no resurgence of the sith empire.

Professor Smarmiarty · 12-27-2011, 03:57 AM

That's pretty conveinent. Oh we would stop the slave trade that is occuring in our area but there are some scary criminals there.
You can outlaw it all you want but unless you do anything about it it doesn't mean shit. Either the republic secretely endorsed the slave trade or they were too weak to stop it. I would be tempted to believe the former cause how hard would it be to take down the hutts. They can barely move- easiest crackdown ever.
The republic didn't do it because they wanted to live off some sweet sweet kickbacks from the hutts who in turn got their profits from slaving.

As for the council- until they started pumping out clones the jedi were like the army of the republic. They are like the "guardians of peace of the galatic republic". When you gotta go murder some droids they get the jedi to do it. That seems pretty important to me. They are basically the blackshirts of the republic- until the clones came along powerful enough to fuck anybody up if they felt like it ad the defacto police force/army.

If the republic were progressive they would have murdered the jedi long ago. The empire murdered all the jedi and for that they are ahead of anything the republic ever did.

E: And let's look atthe rest of the republic.
Senator of Naboo- also a queen- bloodline position
Senator of Alderaan- aso a queen-bloodline position.
Man the "republic" is basically just lots of minifiefdoms.

Krylo · 12-27-2011, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

That's pretty conveinent. Oh we would stop the slave trade that is occuring in our area but there are some scary criminals there.
You can outlaw it all you want but unless you do anything about it it doesn't mean shit. Either the republic secretely endorsed the slave trade or they were too weak to stop it. I would be tempted to believe the former cause how hard would it be to take down the hutts. They can barely move- easiest crackdown ever.
The republic didn't do it because they wanted to live off some sweet sweet kickbacks from the hutts who in turn got their profits from slaving.

Hutt Cartels had enough power that neither the Sith Empire, Old Republic, OTHER Sith Empire, New Republic, or Empire ever felt it was worth the resources to remove them. They owned a rather significantly large area of space, and were their own empire by rights.

And Tatooine was a terrible planet that they literally could not get people to go to and settle. Only people running from something ever go there.

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As for the council- until they started pumping out clones the jedi were like the army of the republic. They are like the "guardians of peace of the galatic republic". When you gotta go murder some droids they get the jedi to do it. That seems pretty important to me. They are basically the blackshirts of the republic- until the clones came along powerful enough to fuck anybody up if they felt like it ad the defacto police force/army.
If the republic were progressive they would have murdered the jedi long ago. The empire murdered all the jedi and for that they are ahead of anything the republic ever did.

This is just patently untrue in every way and I do not know where you even come up with this.

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

E: And let's look atthe rest of the republic.
Senator of Naboo- also a queen- bloodline position
Senator of Alderaan- aso a queen-bloodline position.
Man the "republic" is basically just lots of minifiefdoms.

Republic was more like a more effective UN than a true ruling body. All protectorate worlds maintained their own government. Senators were the rulers of those worlds who voted on galaxy wide issues.

Geminex · 12-27-2011, 04:26 AM

Mind you, I'm pretty sure that, like the UN, it was pretty terrible at actually getting anything done. No sovereign power to enforce its demands, and insufficient concessions from other governments.

I mean, I guess it did fairly well at coordinating the war against the seperatists? But that was only once they got a sith lord in power.

EVILNess · 12-27-2011, 05:05 AM

Gaston is terrible, Beast is terrible, Belle is terrible, the Jedi are terrible, the Republic is terrible, and everyone can suck a dick.

Did I summarize the thread accurately?

Kim · 12-27-2011, 05:10 AM

More like Gaston is AWESOME

Kyanbu The Legend · 12-27-2011, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by EVILNess

Gaston is terrible, Beast is terrible, Belle is terrible, the Jedi are terrible, the Republic is terrible, and everyone can suck a dick.

Did I summarize the thread accurately?

Pretty much yeah. I'd defend Beast and Belle but I honestly just don't remember enough of the movie to make it worth an attempt.

BitVyper · 12-27-2011, 09:32 AM

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Either the republic secretely endorsed the slave trade or they were too weak to stop it. I would be tempted to believe the former cause how hard would it be to take down the hutts. They can barely move- easiest crackdown ever.

The Republic had already deteriorated to the point where their currency wasn't being accepted anymore. I'm not even sure they had a significant enough military to do more than the very basics of protecting their sovereignty. Up until the clones, that is.

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Senator of Naboo- also a queen- bloodline position

Apparently not, because the first movie was all "Naboo ELECTS its queens." Which is bizarre and stupid, I'll grant.

Locke cole · 12-27-2011, 09:52 AM

You know, that means that a majority of Naboo citizens were okay with electing a teenager to a position of supreme power. (or at least, she was one when she was elected)

Yeah, that's gonna go swimmingly.

Naboo in general has racism problems. Of course, if your only Gungan contact was Jar-Jar...

Fifthfiend · 12-27-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Liz

You know what bugs me about the Jedi in the new trilogy? They're all, "He's too old for us to start teaching him force shit," and that's total bullshit. If someone has force potential, I'm pretty sure they're not only able to use it if they've been taught how. We only see the ones who are taught how, but I think, given time, there would be those who realize, "Holy shit! I'm magic!" and start doing something with that power.

The Jedi wouldn't want to be all, "Nope, too old." They'd want to be teaching responsible force usage and being good and all that, just in case the Sith decide to take the force user under their wing or to prevent them from just being some unaffiliated jackass using force pull on everyone's trousers.

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Originally Posted by Krylo

The jedi are dumb in a lot of ways. I mean if they would have just let Anakin fuck Padme when he wanted there'd have been no Jedi Purge, no Darth Vader, and no resurgence of the sith empire.

Like I said earlier they basically show all the hallmarks of an extremist religious order wedded to an utterly toxic ideology.

IRL Yoda would pretty much just be Pope Ratzinger or somebody.

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Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	That's pretty conveinent. Oh we would stop the slave trade that is occuring in our area but there are some scary criminals there. You can outlaw it all you want but unless you do anything about it it doesn't mean shit. Either the republic secretely endorsed the slave trade or they were too weak to stop it. I would be tempted to believe the former cause how hard would it be to take down the hutts. They can barely move- easiest crackdown ever. The republic didn't do it because they wanted to live off some sweet sweet kickbacks from the hutts who in turn got their profits from slaving. As for the council- until they started pumping out clones the jedi were like the army of the republic. They are like the "guardians of peace of the galatic republic". When you gotta go murder some droids they get the jedi to do it. That seems pretty important to me. They are basically the blackshirts of the republic- until the clones came along powerful enough to fuck anybody up if they felt like it ad the defacto police force/army. If the republic were progressive they would have murdered the jedi long ago. The empire murdered all the jedi and for that they are ahead of anything the republic ever did. E: And let's look atthe rest of the republic. Senator of Naboo- also a queen- bloodline position Senator of Alderaan- aso a queen-bloodline position. Man the "republic" is basically just lots of minifiefdoms. Last edited by Professor Smarmiarty; 12-27-2011 at 04:00 AM.

12-27-2011, 05:10 AM	#136
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	More like Gaston is AWESOME __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

12-27-2011, 04:26 AM	#134
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Mind you, I'm pretty sure that, like the UN, it was pretty terrible at actually getting anything done. No sovereign power to enforce its demands, and insufficient concessions from other governments. I mean, I guess it did fairly well at coordinating the war against the seperatists? But that was only once they got a sith lord in power.