Two-Headed Mafia: The Game

[Ape Boy]

... Oh, so it's a completely random vote, as opposed to your reasoning being "I'm a PO, just don't want to state it"?

In that case.

UNVOTE
VOTE: Cephrir Combustion

Back to my first suspect.

[Griever]

So that's two votes for Cephrir Combustion and two for Mooglehat then. Still no word on a deadline I see. Hopefully we can keep the game from entropy now that some of us are posting again, I personally thought it had probably gone that route a couple days ago so I haven't checked in on it since. Going to agree with the other half of Grief Monkey's vote as well.

[Cephrir]

Lack of claim = my vote is perfectly happy where it is.

[Tophat]

I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

[Cephrir]

Alright. I'm a bulletproof townie.

[Moogle0119]

Let's go over some of the actions done in the thread and how they pertain to Cephrir Combustion being scum shall we? As previously stated only two people didn't vote for B_real_cati yesterday. Those two teams would be Cephrir Combustion and Red Jedi. This was the first reason for my vote on Cephrir Combustion. Obviously a mafiate would not want to kill off their own member. I believe Cephrir Combustion was more active yesterday than Red Jedi though which is why they're more likely to be scum.

Let's look at what Cephrir recently said...

Originally Posted by Cephrir

[...]Moogle, claim anyway, if you're a PO or something I will obviously stop voting you.

Now let's think about this for just a minute. If we were the PO and we claimed it as such why would Cephrir have any reason to believe us? If Cephrir is as he claims to be non-scum, why would he stop voting for us because of this? It seems like really faulty logic at work here that wouldn't happen if someone really was a townie. Sounds a lot more like a mafiate that would be willing to take his vote off of me for the time being to help lynch another townie, only to kill us at night if we really were the PO.

Next up we have their roleclaim...

Originally Posted by Cephrir

Alright. I'm a bulletproof townie.

While this could be true, it also sounds a lot more like a set-up for the next couple of days as to explain why the mafia isn't targeting Cephrir Combustion at all. Cephrir Combustion would be alive until he was lynched and claim that "Well obviously the mafia wasn't going to target me, I'm bulletproof!" and then point the finger at the remaining players left in the game.

I think my vote is fine where it is. Not like it's going to matter though this game is going to entropy anyway at this rate.

[Tendronai]

I'm inclined to agree with Moogle, both for the avoiding of the B_Real lynch and due to the fact that I don't believe a game with such a small number of bodies would have room for a night-immune townie, in addition to the 'this is why the mafia isn't going after me' logic it would provide.

On the off chance this doesn't work out, though, I'll be fresh out of ideas and have to go back to my partner's well-reasoned argument for Moogle.

Until then, though,

UNVOTE: MOOGLEHAT
VOTE: CEPHRIR COMBUSTION

[Cephrir]

Originally Posted by Moog

Those two teams would be Cephrir Combustion and Red Jedi. This was the first reason for my vote on Cephrir Combustion. Obviously a mafiate would not want to kill off their own member.

Horrendous assumption.

I believe Cephrir Combustion was more active yesterday than Red Jedi though which is why they're more likely to be scum.

Even worse assumption, and I didn't think that'd be possible.

Now let's think about this for just a minute. If we were the PO and we claimed it as such why would Cephrir have any reason to believe us? If Cephrir is as he claims to be non-scum, why would he stop voting for us because of this?

You're right, I should just go ahead and lynch the PO. Except, that would be retarded.

It seems like really faulty logic at work here that wouldn't happen if someone really was a townie. Sounds a lot more like a mafiate that would be willing to take his vote off of me for the time being to help lynch another townie, only to kill us at night if we really were the PO.

There's probably a BG in this game ya know...

This may be the worst argument I've ever seen in a game of mafia, and I have seen some SHITTY arguments in games of mafia. How about we lynch Mooglehat, who is incredibly obvious scum after the above disgustingly bad argument, and any vig who happens to exist can shoot me and fail. Failing that, lynch me tomorrow or something.

Moogle, I don't care what your alignment is, I have seriously just lost a ton of respect for you as a player.

[Ape Boy]

A bullet-proof Townie in a game with eight actual players? I don't buy it either, and Moog's argument has merit. Add in the fact that there was no discernable Vig kill Night One and it makes it even odder you'd mention there being one in the game when there's been no evidence such.

Besides which, you've been jumping around your votes today like 'effin crazy. Me, Bananaskull, Mooglehat, at the very least, because I may have missed one or two.

If he's wrong and you end up exactly what you say, he'll go next.

[Moogle0119]

Originally Posted by Cephrir

Moogle, I don't care what your alignment is, I have seriously just lost a ton of respect for you as a player.

I guess it's a good thing I don't play to earn your respect then.

If my argument was that personally offending to you I apologize but it makes a lot of sense and apparently I'm not the only one who thinks so. Or we could all just be mafia ganging up on you, because I'm sure that's so much more likely.[/sarcasm]

As far as my comment about you saying you'd take the vote off of me if I were the PO let me explain that a little further. Let's say I was the PO and claimed you were mafia. Well granted of course you're going to say "No I'm not" whether you are or not. Anyone would really. But why on earth would a townie even believe someone who roleclaimed PO and claimed that they were scum? Sounds highly unbelievable to even make such a statement. Usually you're more likely to see the "broken PO" argument. Not the "Well golly gee, you really are the PO! But I'm not scum, so I'll take my vote off of you because I can obviously trust you!"

Plus the fact that your response to my reasons were taken with a considerably different and harsh tone while not really answering anything and just going "Wow, so dumb!" just further validates things.