John Dies at the End Mafia - Page 15

The Argent Lord · 08-08-2008, 04:26 PM

I'm curious about that myself. Are there multiple gossipers? The words Gossiper-aligned imply it, but Ecurt's reaction doesn't. Either way, if he has an ability that can reveal mafiates and is willing to help the town, I see no reason to vote him.

***Fenris*** · 08-08-2008, 04:29 PM

The answer here is simple. We vote off Demetrius. If Ecurt is lying, we vote off Ecurt the next day.

Any objections?

Demonlink2 · 08-08-2008, 04:33 PM

I have none to Fenris' idea.

I mean it's the reasonable. The Gossip doesn't sound like a role that is going to win by offing one person, sounds more like a role that would sooner help someone else by talking, similar to a PO, sorta?

I dunno, let's start with this new lead and then Vote Ecurt dead as necessary.

vote: Demetrius

P-Sleazy · 08-08-2008, 04:48 PM

Moogle is the Nosey Gossiper - Gossiper Aligned. So now we have 3 people we could go after. Ecurt, Moogle, and Demetrius. Given that I haven't investigated Demetrius, I have no clue whether Ecurt is telling the truth or not. I'll withhold my vote on him in case he's vengeful.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephrir

b_real, way to not claim. Typical.

I figured this would give me more legitimacy than a simple claim. Plus, this confirmed for me that I'm not a broken PO!

Moogle0119 · 08-08-2008, 04:50 PM

As Fenris and Demonlink have already said the fact that Ecurt is "Gossip" aligned doesn't strike me entirely as "anti-town". After re-reading the thread I did notice where B_real mentioned several times in his posts the word "Gossip" very oddly so apparently he knew ahead of time that Ecurt wasn't town-aligned specifically. Gossipers usually spread information and have lots of it so I'm willing to believe Ecurt's claim for now. Most likely he'll get killed soon anyway and if we find out Ecurt's lying, well we'll get him tomorrow for being a lying gossiper.

Vote: Demetrius

Edit: Wow what a shitty ninja...

The Argent Lord · 08-08-2008, 04:56 PM

Well, that answers at least that part of my question. In any case, Fenris' idea works for me, but I'd rather wait until the gossipers explain what exactly they are before committing myself to anything.

Cid Highwind · 08-08-2008, 05:41 PM

Gossipers are probably Masons with a win condition...? What that condition would be, I have no idea, and whether Ecurt is lying about their "harmless" powers, I have no idea.

I'm gonna hold off on bandwagoning Demetrius, or anyone until I see some more reasoning. I mean, hell, why are we even voting for him? Did I miss something?

EDIT-- Oh, apparently I did. Nevermind, I missed that part of Ecurts post.

Truce · 08-08-2008, 05:59 PM

Basically, a gossiper follows people at night. The two of us share that information amongst ourselves. We could use it either to claim PO - which, unfortunately, B_real already proved himself to be, or otherwise know who to vote for and why.

It was damn near impossible to get a majority in the town with just the two of us. It's impossible now that you found both of us, and even more impossible now that you know who we are.

Honestly, though, it's a simple decision. You can go after us right now, when the mafia might try to kill us anyway for being able to out them, and ignore trying to find the real people killing you, or realize that you can use us and lynch Demetrius.

Honestly, though, I'm not going to vote yet. I'll wait and see what everybody thinks, and go along with what you choose - even if it's to lynch me.

Cid Highwind · 08-08-2008, 06:23 PM

Well, knowing that, its as good a lead as I can get. So my obvious course of action here is:

Vote: Demetrius

P-Sleazy · 08-08-2008, 06:25 PM

Hey, I put my hat in for Demetrius (I'm just not voting). Why lynch them (Gossipers) now when they can still be helpful to the town? Unless of course they're lying, which I suspect they may be about thier numbers, but thats not exactly a big deal since they can't increase thier numbers and we've already got 2 of them out in the open.

08-08-2008, 04:26 PM	#141
The Argent Lord Master of Silver Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Silver Keep Posts: 1,433	I'm curious about that myself. Are there multiple gossipers? The words Gossiper-aligned imply it, but Ecurt's reaction doesn't. Either way, if he has an ability that can reveal mafiates and is willing to help the town, I see no reason to vote him. __________________ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

08-08-2008, 04:29 PM	#142
*Fenris* Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Location: East Coast Posts: 6,806	The answer here is simple. We vote off Demetrius. If Ecurt is lying, we vote off Ecurt the next day. Any objections? __________________ "FENRIS IS AN ASSHOLE" - shiney

08-08-2008, 04:33 PM	#143
Demonlink2 TOON ISAAC Join Date: May 2006 Location: University of Florida Posts: 387	I have none to Fenris' idea. I mean it's the reasonable. The Gossip doesn't sound like a role that is going to win by offing one person, sounds more like a role that would sooner help someone else by talking, similar to a PO, sorta? I dunno, let's start with this new lead and then Vote Ecurt dead as necessary. vote: Demetrius __________________ Wanna play a game of chance? Turn off your lightswitch, and we'll see if another person in the room turns into Uboa. ҉Apeture science is your trusted friend in the field of science.҉

08-08-2008, 04:50 PM	#145
Moogle0119 The REAL Lord of the Dance Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Narshe Caves Posts: 397	As Fenris and Demonlink have already said the fact that Ecurt is "Gossip" aligned doesn't strike me entirely as "anti-town". After re-reading the thread I did notice where B_real mentioned several times in his posts the word "Gossip" very oddly so apparently he knew ahead of time that Ecurt wasn't town-aligned specifically. Gossipers usually spread information and have lots of it so I'm willing to believe Ecurt's claim for now. Most likely he'll get killed soon anyway and if we find out Ecurt's lying, well we'll get him tomorrow for being a lying gossiper. Vote: Demetrius Edit: Wow what a shitty ninja... __________________ One day the tides will turn One day the fields will burn One day the seas will churn The fury of our maker's hand What will you do?

08-08-2008, 04:56 PM	#146
The Argent Lord Master of Silver Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Silver Keep Posts: 1,433	Well, that answers at least that part of my question. In any case, Fenris' idea works for me, but I'd rather wait until the gossipers explain what exactly they are before committing myself to anything. __________________ Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

08-08-2008, 05:59 PM	#148
Truce Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,856	Basically, a gossiper follows people at night. The two of us share that information amongst ourselves. We could use it either to claim PO - which, unfortunately, B_real already proved himself to be, or otherwise know who to vote for and why. It was damn near impossible to get a majority in the town with just the two of us. It's impossible now that you found both of us, and even more impossible now that you know who we are. Honestly, though, it's a simple decision. You can go after us right now, when the mafia might try to kill us anyway for being able to out them, and ignore trying to find the real people killing you, or realize that you can use us and lynch Demetrius. Honestly, though, I'm not going to vote yet. I'll wait and see what everybody thinks, and go along with what you choose - even if it's to lynch me.

08-08-2008, 06:25 PM	#150
P-Sleazy Can Summon Sparkles by Posing! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kinging it up! Posts: 2,339	Hey, I put my hat in for Demetrius (I'm just not voting). Why lynch them (Gossipers) now when they can still be helpful to the town? Unless of course they're lying, which I suspect they may be about thier numbers, but thats not exactly a big deal since they can't increase thier numbers and we've already got 2 of them out in the open. __________________ The King is your new master now. Totally returning for the Summer: a mafia Game: Sign ups HERE!