Because I have trouble with words sometimes. I can't pinpoint one specific thing on people, its just I read their posts and they strike me as odd. Here, maybe this will work better if I just go with what strikes me odd about each and every post of Nikose rather than summing up what bothers me with everything.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Vote: Kerensky287
For bein' a quitter.
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Joke post, whatever.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Vote: Hawk
For bein' a killjoy.
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Another joke post. Seems to be active.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Actually yeah,
Unvote: Hawk
Vote: KareshWithAMoustache
Shave that shit.
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Third joke post. Okay so he may have nothing to do, or as special attachment to this game.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Hugs and Sparkles on : Hawk
Did I wait long enough for the edit tag to show up, too? Oh, goodie.
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More joke posts. Man, he really doesn't have much to do does he.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Either that, or ONE of you two IS Batman, and is trying to hide behind the roll of Thomas Elliot, Childhood Friend!
Seems like a smart roleclaim for disguising the 'don', as it were.
FOS: Hawk on that logic; and if that fails-
Possible FOS: Aldurin, not even bolding it yet though.
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Is it me, or does it strike as odd that Nikose has already figured out Batman is a threat this quickly. I honestly believed at this point that Batman was going to be like a Serial Killer role or something.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
I'm more then willing to be suspicious of them both, because Hawk is WAY too serious [very BATMAN like, if you will~] and Aldurin is Aldurin and costs the town nothing if he vanishes mysteriously.
Actually, shame on Freeze for not Jailing Aldurin. >:C
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And his double post right after it is feeling like he is going after hawk with a hardon. Seriously, pushy, acting with knowledge, all seems a bit off.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
In that case, Aldurin is most likely the Town Mayor, then, as it fits Hush's [T. Elliot] style.
UNFORTUNATELY, it's ALDURIN and therefore the worst imaginable town role for him to be in. :/
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I like how both Aldurin and Nikose couldn't realize Hawk's blatant joke claim in response of my own until Hawk came out and said it either. That and Nikose suddenly knows what Aldurin is solely because he read the thread wrong and his first conclusion was wrong?
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
If you had the ability to read words written on the screen, RO, you'd see that I'm busy lining up facts. Like I usually do in mafia. For instance: Aldurin is Thomas Elliot, Semi-Confirmed because he has a shitty role, that in all likelyhood is more than just a miller role.
Thomas Elliot is the Villain "Hush", and effectively WAS Bruce Wayne, in control of things, for the latter half of the House of Hush arc. Hush wants Batman dead as much as everyone else, AND Hush, working with Enigma, were running the show when they arranged their villain teamup.
Moogle's a comic junkie. Read up on "Hush Begins", and you'll find it bears a striking simularity to our game's layout in terms of roles and such. Aldurin's half-hearted roleclaim may have given us a very useful tool in defeating the Batman.
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Now Nikose uses his incredible nerd powers to reference a story arch in Batman. I'm going to be honestly, I don't read comics, I know in passing who Batman is about as much as I know who superman is, and I know about Mr. Freeze, the joker, and the scarecrow, and thats my extensive knowledge of Batman. Now judging from what I know of Moogle, I seriously doubt he restricted himself to a story-arch however so I imagine this is mostly just using Batman Universe stuff, and not everything will match exactly what one comic says to another.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Based on Hush Begins, I think we can assume the following Mafia [or "Batman" roles, as it were]:
Bruce Wayne Batman, Tim Drake as Robin, Stephanie Gordon as Batgirl, Dick Grayson as Nightwing, and Alfred as... Alfred, I suppose. Alfred's pretty badass though, so that's not something to take lightly.
Those are the most likely mafia roles. I'm actually enjoying this so far, Moogle's using comic lore and that's sexyfun.
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Yeah that might be useful. Don't know if that knowledge is from sheer amount of nerd (which Nikose has in his defense) or that knowledge came from somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
I don't recall ever saying something so phenomenally stupid as recruiting Batman, RO. Once again, your ability to read is being called into question- alternatively, you're just trying to call me into suspicion, which is just as bad, really.
A Mayor or leadership role would fit Hush perfectly; Again, I direct your attention to the story arc I referenced in said post, only this time, I'll link it so that you only have to click a little string of blue words, instead of having to open a tab and google it:
Just click here.
it's 4 paragraphs and a sentence. I hope that summarizes well enough why my mind immediately suspected Hush to be a MillerMayor role. |
Nikose argues that the name doesn't quite fit the miller, in that a mayor role can work as well. Counter-arguement to be made would be there may be better qualified people in-universe (Like Harvey Dent) that may have this as well, that both fit the miller role and the mayor role.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
I'm extrapolating off more then just Thomas Elliot; I'm also using knowledge of Moogle being a huge comic nerd. :P He's enough of a buff that he'll want to fit things to a specific arc. Go read the link; it should help.
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Maybe, maybe not. Either Nikose spoke with Moogle in making this game, or he has something that is telling him more about this game than we realize.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
...Once again, I didn't ever say that anyone knew who batman was, and... I literally cannot decipher your post. I'm just going to call you dumb.
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RO is arguing how the mafia was made if Batman is the head of the place, as the role would lead with Bruce Wayne: Batman mafia aligned, which would indicate everyone else would know what Batman's secret identity is, which doesn't really match up in-universe. Nikose's defense was calling him dumb.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
[previous post was at RO]
@Bard: I have to make leaps. It's day one, I can only go on whats shown. To summarize what RO seems to be incapable of understanding: Aldurin is a safe zone with his claim. Good Job Aldurin for doing something right, and if you have other powers, be sure to put them to good use.
@Marius: He is equally terrible at Mafia as he is at everything else in life.
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Bard questions where these leaps are coming from, Nikose responds thats just how he is. I still don't know if this is outside or Nikose is that big a nerd. He then goes on to insult Aldurin more.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Your role still fits with the storyline... whiiiiich to means we can extrapolate other roles in the game!
also: UNVOTE: Whoever I had voted for Because joke votes.
*gets to work on role list*
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Aldurin makes his second part of his claim here. This indicates a few things. One, there is more than one killer out there. Two, Nikose claims this still fits with the role, matching my earlier suspicions that the mayor part should've gone to other qualified people. Yet Nikose knows the batman universe better than I do, he should've figured that one out already well before Aldurin even mentioned it, or even came up with that. I find it odd he waits until Aldurin, which he keeps insulting of course, points out he isn't mayor to finally say Aldurin isn't mayor.
Too much information, a slip up, or something else? Hmmmm
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
@IHMN: Don't really care! This is how I always do my thing. Call me out on it if you want to, but it's how I typically play after silliness- and we have something of a reasonable lead here. Although feel free to lynch Aldurin- if it confirms him as Hush and his claims, it would mean my other theories about the game being based on this specific arc are very likely.
As for Roles likely to appear, and what might make sense as their role. All are random guesses at this point, but I'm fairly certain these roles are in game.
Joker - [...Not a clue. Probably mason'd with Harley]
Harley Quinn - [...Maybe bodyguard? Probably mason'd with Jokes.]
Two-Face - [...Kill role?]
Poison Ivy - [Investigator?]
Scarecrow - [Investigator?]
Killer Croc - [Kill role?]
Clay Face - [...no clue.]
Catwoman - [...Town Traitor?]
E. Nigma/Riddler - [Investigator?]
Mister Freeze is outside of the list of 'characters in this arc', but we already know he's in the game.
Any claim outside those role names would be suspect at best; anyone who claims these roles would likely get counterclaimed by the actual holder if they are bluffing.
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I like his defense on IHMN's is basically I don't care, I do what I want. Is it me, or is Nikose really trying to act helpful and usefull, and be active in this? Its like there is a lot at stake here...
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
I'm pretty sure not including Freeze in a Batman themed game, regardless of plot or story, would be considered blasphemy.  |
Random post defending that this is based off the story arch and why Freeze is still in even though he isn't in that arch.
Is it just me, or is he pushing those names with those roles hard, like he wants people to think that is how they are suppose to go?
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
While not wanting to defend Aldurin in any possible way, I'd just like to clarify that his powers do make sense.
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More of the name matches the role thing.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
...the primary reason why I believe Aldurin's roleclaim, is that he picked a relatively obscure Batman Character and his power is more or less believable.
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Which means either Aldurin knows Batman or that is his role.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Hawk, the only downside in those thoughts, (because they're very logical), is... well, you're affording a lot of thought to Aldurin, and knowledge of the Batman world. Hush isn't the most well-known villain; most people would have no idea who he was without doing some decent wiki-digging, and to randomly pick him from a pile would be almost unheard of, considering the vast size of Batman's rogue gallery.
...although, then again, I suppose he could have claimed anyone else and made me think the same way.
...Ya know what? Vote: Aldurin if he turns up as being the character he claims, it will confirm a ton of things for me mentally. I'm willing to wager there's a lot of custom powers.
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And Nikose keeps insulting Aldurin, and ends up deciding to lynch him to confirm his claims. I think Nikose doesn't think too highly of aldurin at this point. You know what, I think Aldurin was perfectly fine going Fuck you to Nikose too. Its one thing to question the logic and catch someone in playing. Its another thing to insult the player time and time again on intelligence.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
In fairness, I was his staunchest and only supporter. I can see him getting angry about that.
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With supporters like him who needs enemies.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Well, he could have hit the random button the batman wiki and taken the first Villain he hadn't heard of, I think is what Hawk's point is.
I actually semi-trust Aldurin's claim, but it's mafia, and I am probably stupid for trusting people.
Also, if his lynch turns out to be Hush, I can feel a bit more confident in my assertions, and can start figuring out what likely power roles are here.
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This whole post reads, "Eh, I can't think of anything better so I am going with confirming my ideas".
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
However, UNVOTE: ALDURIN
Because you're right, Gem. I believe he's telling the truth here, and sacrifice for theory isn't the brightest thing I could do here.
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Which he promptly realizes is not a smart move to follow through. Is it me, or is it weird that I think for even a moment that Nikose was willing to lynch someone he thought was townie solely to prove something to himself.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
[OTOH if he turns up mafia I'm going to point my sniffer at you, Gems. <3]
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Guess you got to cover your tracks.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Publically voicing opinions: Suspicious
Keeping opinions to yourself: Suspicious
Not Playing Mafia: Super Suspicious
Guys I think we should lynch Kerensky
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Hey look, another joke post. Man we got a joker here.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
I think what he's saying is that he likes you. Probably sexually.
you are my OTP.
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Okay seriously? I mean, I can understand if he is trying to lighten the mood in mafia, but I really feel like its coming off heavy. Getting people to laugh at your posts is a strong way to get people to not think you are mafian.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
I've had you both and moved on. Share and share alike, go nuts, gentlemen. <3
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And more jokes. Though to be fair they are now in reponse to other jokes.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Will be on the road away from keyboard pretty much all day starting at noonish-7 PMish, EST; if you want spontaneously murder me instead of Aldurin, that'll be your timeframe to keep me from defending myself.
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Real life gets in the way of mafia sometimes. It even happens to suspects as well. Good post though for not getting people wanting to lynch you.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Things that constitute a kind of dick move: voting for me when I'm afk.
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If there was a dick for every dick move in mafia, I think we would all drown in cocks.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
IHMN is, quite honestly, on my hotlist too, but I was going to wait to see exactly how scummy he was acting, and if there was any signs of our Jailor [Freeze] getting any investigative powers out of his shit. [Probably not, but, it's not an unreasonable thing.]
I'm not going to go back to voting for Aldurin, yeeet. I honestly like his claim, he's playing his role correctly, and honestly? His claim woooould seem to fit.
I'm going to hold my vote back for now... but IHMN is on my hotseat.
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Then Nikose goes after IHMN, which we know is our bodyguard. For reasons that basically read as what I was first saying about IHMN, I don't trust this. Seriously, I have a question for you Karesh. If my suspicion of Nikose based off his posting habits is scummy, why the hell isn't Nikoses trusting of IHMN based off posting habit not considered the same?
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
You said the same thing last game, IC.
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The proper response should've been: You said the same thing this game.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
Well, last time you said it, you were a mafiate, and I was town.
I'm just saying, patterns, man.
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Yeah last game isn't this game. Tables could very well be turned and you know it.
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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris
...Red Hood is the Serial Killer. Huh. I didn't see that coming.
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Yeah, and we start to see Nikose's role list failing apart. If he talked to Moogle, that wouldn't have happened for his information on whats going on. The other thing, having some information about a few peoples roles, like say mafia, though could still very well fall through. Hmmmmmm.
So yeah, not really a single thing is striking me odd. Nikose is acting with a lot of information, more than he could gather, getting people lynched based off of I KNOW THIS SO WE MUSH, and is being an ass and a half to players to boot. Littered with the amount of joke posting done, I honestly don't see a better target than him.
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