My Rise and Fall: How I succumbed to MAGICAL FRIENDSHIP - Page 157

PCD · 02-20-2012, 02:58 AM

"I wish I could really meet Pinkie!" they all say....

Flarecobra · 02-20-2012, 10:40 PM

I can see Snake jump at surprise at first, but then hug her.

Solid Snake · 03-03-2012, 04:35 PM

...

........

...Heh.

There have been episodes of MLP: FiM before that I've considered 'mediocre' or 'average' in quality, but I have to say today's new episode was the first I ever thought was just bad. Like, just poorly written, poorly executed, poorly imagined.

...Maybe I'm being a bit harsh because this episode had the misfortune of coming right after one of the series' best ("Smile" will forever have a permanent slot in my iPod), but man, everything about this episode just seemed rather off. The two most glaring issues for me were:

1: Angel essentially abusing Fluttershy like a husband would abuse a wife, going so far as to physically strike her, and never truly receiving a comeuppance for his behavior (the moral of the story is "Make him appreciate the food you do cook for him," not "Leave his sorry ass;" imagine that moral applied in the context of human male/female relationships...

2: Rarity suggesting to Fluttershy that "being assertive" is flirting. That whole sequence was offensive to women (to get what you want, sell your sex appeal!) and to nerds (they're so hideous and socially awkward they'll bend over backwards the moment you say anything nice to them!)

While Rarity's had moments like that before, it's usually been in the context of her learning a lesson about her poor behavior, and/or in the context of her friendship with Spike, which is written quite well. Here it was just off-putting, particularly since the lesson is presented positively to Fluttershy, like, "Here is what (other) women should do."

...Yeah, just a weird episode. It's not anything I'd stop watching the show over, as overall MLP's had far too many great memories and progressive morals and fun characters to let this outweigh that, but this is an episode I don't foresee myself watching again.

Locke cole · 03-03-2012, 05:25 PM

There was the fact that, when it came down to it at the end, flirting and trickery failed where actual assertiveness (while remaining polite) worked.

Flarecobra · 03-03-2012, 06:35 PM

MLP: Flutterbitch Strikes Back.

or: The Return of The Stare.

Arcanum · 03-05-2012, 01:45 AM

Why did they have to make the Fluttershy episode terrible?

On an unrelated to the latest episode note, I found this:

Regulus Tera · 03-06-2012, 01:19 AM

"You are so handsome."

Flutterslut. >=( *tears posters apart, sets Fluttershy toys on fire* gdlk episode will watch again fluttershy episodes are always the best

also snake is a grumpy meanie grumpy pumpkin

Solid Snake · 03-06-2012, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

also snake is a grumpy meanie grumpy pumpkin[/color]

Yes, because my criticism of a few elements of a single episode undoubtedly outweighs the copious amounts of praise I've thrust upon MLP: FiM on a weekly basis
I mean it's not like I'm the guy who's often accused of being too obsessed with ponies

Regulus Tera · 03-06-2012, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Yes, because my criticism of a few elements of a single episode undoubtedly outweighs the copious amounts of praise I've thrust upon MLP: FiM on a weekly basis
I mean it's not like I'm the guy who's often accused of being too obsessed with ponies

I rather have Whority and Flutterslut than another fucking CMC episode. I think you are looking at the Fluttershy/Angel relationship from the wrong angle; that scene is suppose to evoke a maternal vibe. Angel is acting like a petty child who always gets his way because the mother is far too preoccupied with being nice to him. The point is that Fluttershy's insistence on trying to please him is misguiding him too, breaking their familiar structure.

I will admit that Rarity using sex appeal to further pursue her own interests is not a good lesson for the kids, but I can forgive that instance because it was played for the lulz. This episode was easily one of my favourites this season because of the way it played with Fluttershy's archetype and putting her into the entire opposite. Actually, the best MLP episodes are those that do exactly that with each pony.

Solid Snake · 03-10-2012, 04:13 PM

...Now that was more like it.

02-20-2012, 10:40 PM	#1562
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	I can see Snake jump at surprise at first, but then hug her. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them.

03-03-2012, 04:35 PM	#1563
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	... ........ ...Heh. There have been episodes of MLP: FiM before that I've considered 'mediocre' or 'average' in quality, but I have to say today's new episode was the first I ever thought was just *bad.* Like, just poorly written, poorly executed, poorly imagined. ...Maybe I'm being a bit harsh because this episode had the misfortune of coming right after one of the series' best ("Smile" will forever have a permanent slot in my iPod), but man, everything about this episode just seemed rather off. The two most glaring issues for me were: 1: Angel essentially abusing Fluttershy like a husband would abuse a wife, going so far as to physically strike her, and never truly receiving a comeuppance for his behavior (the moral of the story is "Make him appreciate the food you do cook for him," not "Leave his sorry ass;" imagine that moral applied in the context of human male/female relationships... 2: Rarity suggesting to Fluttershy that "being assertive" is flirting. That whole sequence was offensive to women (to get what you want, sell your sex appeal!) and to nerds (they're so hideous and socially awkward they'll bend over backwards the moment you say anything nice to them!) While Rarity's had moments like that before, it's usually been in the context of her learning a lesson about her poor behavior, and/or in the context of her friendship with Spike, which is written quite well. Here it was just off-putting, particularly since the lesson is presented positively to Fluttershy, like, "Here is what (other) women should do." ...Yeah, just a weird episode. It's not anything I'd stop watching the show over, as overall MLP's had far too many great memories and progressive morals and fun characters to let this outweigh that, but this is an episode I don't foresee myself watching again. __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

03-03-2012, 06:35 PM	#1565
Flarecobra Burn. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Classified Posts: 11,017	MLP: Flutterbitch Strikes Back. or: The Return of The Stare. __________________ "Only the fool wishes to go into battle to beat someone for the satisfaction of beating someone." -A Thousand Sons Rules. Read them, know them, love them. Last edited by Flarecobra; 03-03-2012 at 06:42 PM.

03-05-2012, 01:45 AM	#1566
Arcanum Strike the Earth! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 3,185	Why did they have to make the Fluttershy episode terrible? On an unrelated to the latest episode note, I found this: __________________ POS Almighty has spoken.

03-10-2012, 04:13 PM	#1570
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	...Now that was more like it. __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

03-06-2012, 01:19 AM	#1567
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	"You are so handsome." Flutterslut. >=( tears posters apart, sets Fluttershy toys on fire gdlk episode will watch again fluttershy episodes are always the best also snake is a grumpy meanie grumpy pumpkin