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Unread 11-24-2011, 12:20 AM   #1631
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I think most important thing is his entire argument is based on, that Ichigo shouldn't ally with soul society because they lied to him. Forgetting of course that by that logic Ichigo shouldn't ally himself with Ginjou either.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 12:25 AM   #1632
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Ginjou confirmed for somehow being an even bigger whiner than that kid with the vriskaknuckles.
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I think we can all agree on that.
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Well, that does explain why his Bankai went from "hit friggin' Byakuya twice in the time it takes one Getsuga to fly" to "haha, what was that? You're so slow!"
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I really hope this means we get super-speed bankai Ichigo back soon, so then when he beats a guy it can be through actual skill and not the power of friendship or whatever. Although technically if he gets his super-speed bankai back, it would be because he's friends with Soul Society, so anyone he beats with it he would technically be beating with the power of friendship.
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You know what... I think I can live with that.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 03:20 AM   #1637
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it would be because he's friends with Soul Society, so anyone he beats with it he would technically be beating with the power of friendship.
I dont know, Ichigo seems to use the secrete inner power trope more. Guy just barely manages to avoid deus ex mechina territory, and thats only because Kubo is a master of foreshadowing. Only time I can think of that he won with a straight up power of friendship, was his fight with grimjoww

Returning to his old super speed self would probably be the first time since his fight with Renji that he won by being the better fighter.
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I'm all for it if it means the fights will get better.
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Master of foreshadowing? I dunno. Eiichiro Oda is a master of foreshadowing. I can't prove it, but I think that Kubo is more a master of making things look like foreshadowing.

Like, didn't he admit that he didn't come up with the whole "Aizen is the real traitor" thing until after Momo found Aizen's crucified corpse?
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Unread 11-24-2011, 07:49 PM   #1640
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I dunno. Eiichiro Oda is a master of foreshadowing.
no he isn't, his writing style is to come up with a bunch of arc ideas and just jam them in where ever. In fact he once stated he has to abandon most of them because the series would never end otherwise. You can see alot of plot holes that keep cropping up because of it, basically anything having to do with Ace for example. Not that its bad, for One Piece it works great because while there is a goal there isn't really an over arching plot.

Though you might be right and Kubo is just as bad or even worse. But be it just well done retcons or legitimate foreshadowing, he does handle it well. Maybe he is just looking for an excuse as to why Ichigo's speed tanked so he can boost him back up, I wont be complaining.
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