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Unread 09-29-2010, 10:38 AM   #1671
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I am going to assume sincerity on your part. Because the alternative would mean impotent rage on my part, and I wanna get rid of the 'rage part at least.

...

Or we could just be Kismesis and hate each other really, REALLY hard.
Interested?

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So yeah, maybe the 'dick' part was inappropriate on my part. Sorry.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 10:54 AM   #1672
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Y'all bring a tear to my eye. Maybe there's hope for this crazy world after all!

You know, until a bunch of meteors come out of freakin' nowhere and pound all life on Earth to dust, with the only survivors being a handful of individuals who were all created by the very program responsible for ending the world, which does this grisly task for reasons completely superfluous to the ultimate goal of the program itself.

But, like, until then I think we have a shot.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 11:07 AM   #1673
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I like to think that the understanding that she and all the other kids being unable to win the game in the conventional fashion is leading her on to just trying to find the best possible thing you can salvage from this massive waste. Because going along the game the same way the trolls did will only result in disappointment, but if you wreck everything, break all the rules, and turn this little session on its head you might get some unexpected outcome worth enjoying.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 12:32 PM   #1674
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Y'think that's it? But it creates an entire universe as well, when done right.
Doesn't that cancel out, a bit? I wouldn't have thought that the game's inherently evil. Or if it is, we don't know it yet.
The seed planet is going to die no matter what you do. The new universe is created only if you then go on to "win" the game. An outcome which, judging by what Karkat has said, has some pretty horrible odds.

And considering the high probability of each new universe resulting in at least one new game of SBurb each, with another dead planet and a slight chance of another cyclical universe... yeah. It's an evil fucking game.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 12:42 PM   #1675
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OH so I remembered what I meant to ask about, which is way-ass back a million updates ago, the game said something about like, lots and lots of SBurb sessions going on worldwide.

What's up with all of those? Do none of those other sessions that were mentioned actually exist, are there gangs of other kids attempting to create universes or w/ev, what is the deal there?
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Unread 09-29-2010, 12:43 PM   #1676
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Most likely all those other sessions are just doomed to failure.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 12:46 PM   #1677
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OH so I remembered what I meant to ask about, which is way-ass back a million updates ago, the game said something about like, lots and lots of SBurb sessions going on worldwide.

What's up with all of those? Do none of those other sessions that were mentioned actually exist, are there gangs of other kids attempting to create universes or w/ev, what is the deal there?
I'm thinking most of those never got into the game. It seemed to be implied that they failed to get into the Medium in time to escape the meteors, with those GameFAQs entries Rose was reading just cutting off. It's possible that only there may only be one session per world, but that's just a guess.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 01:07 PM   #1678
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Or maybe one of those other sessions actually succeeded and the Kids' session was supposed to be one of the many many many failures.
But WEIRD PLOT/TIME/SPACE/PUMPKIN SHIT ensued.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 01:13 PM   #1679
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Nah I'm under tha assumption that they never got into the medium, or at least they failed to form a chain.

Like, their session failed sooner and worse than the kids.
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Unread 09-29-2010, 01:29 PM   #1680
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We've seen what happens with a two session world. They were the same session all along.

That said, it's clear now that the game is flexible enough to adapt to almost any scenario. Hussie has responded to some questions on the matter in his formspring.

My guess is that a single world gets a single Skaia, and any players that manage to get going in that world will be incorporated into the same session probably. But then again, it's a hyper-flexible game, so who knows what happens in the really bizarre ones.

As for the moral value of offing a planet to make a new universe... well, how many sperm get sacrificed making a baby? Hussie suggested that the game is how universes reproduce, and relative to a whole universe, we're a lot less significant than sperm are to us. Yeah, okay, sapience and blah blah blah, but we're still not much more than cells inside an unimaginably massive creature that remains incomprehensible to us. Hell, how many things do we kill to do anything? I mean, if continuing the process of Creation that keeps reality going isn't an excuse then craving a Big Mac sure as hell isn't.

I don't think Skaia really has a moral value in itself. If the Outer gods or someone else actually constructed the process... well yeah, they'd be at fault, but they'd be at fault for every death ever anyway, and good luck pinning your moral system on them.

Anyway, the point is that this thing is operating so far above our paygrade that applying moral judgement to it from a human perspective is... well, there's no reason you shouldn't do it, but it's a very limited perspective to view the whole thing from.

Besides; worlds end, whether you like it or not. And if you're living in a universe with all this mythology, then there's probably a being responsible for keeping the process going.

Presumably, if you didn't have Sburb operating, the prototypical universe would have just gotten old and died, and nothing else would have ever been. Actually, I'm guessing that in this cosmology, all Creation is an endless time loop with no clear beginning or end, so no Sburb could mean no universes at all. That's just speculation, of course, but it'd fit with what we've seen, even though it'll probably never be addressed.
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