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RustedAngel · 11-04-2008, 11:13 AM

I think when most people say build they are referring to stat and skill sets, not the equipment that accompanies them. Equipment enhances a build, but doesn't really change the overall play style, while stat and skill spreads do. Of course there are some equipments that can compliment builds by decreasing weaknesses like survivability or the ability to spike, but only a few items that really radically alter play style.

Also, you will very nearly always be able to improve a build with some piece of equipment you don't yet have. It's one of the reasons people keep playing games, but almost always stats and skills will have a cap on there potential, it ensures everyone has a level playing field to work from. So while you can always say "Needs more x." its not really going to change the build.

Also, yes your build does suck edit: baglis whatever they day im able to tell you two apart is the day hell freezes over., real men don't use upgraded equipment or bother maxing characters. They are too busy getting drunk and making love to women (who may or may not be related to you in a maternal fashion) to do any of that.

The Wizard Who Did It · 11-04-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RustedAngel

I think when most people say build they are referring to stat and skill sets, not the equipment that accompanies them. Equipment enhances a build, but doesn't really change the overall play style, while stat and skill spreads do. Of course there are some equipments that can compliment builds by decreasing weaknesses like survivability or the ability to spike, but only a few items that really radically alter play style.

Also, you will very nearly always be able to improve a build with some piece of equipment you don't yet have. It's one of the reasons people keep playing games, but almost always stats and skills will have a cap on there potential, it ensures everyone has a level playing field to work from. So while you can always say "Needs more x." its not really going to change the build.

Also, yes your build does suck edit: baglis whatever they day im able to tell you two apart is the day hell freezes over., real men don't use upgraded equipment or bother maxing characters. They are too busy getting drunk and making love to women (who may or may not be related to you in a maternal fashion) to do any of that.

Equipment enhances a build same as stats do. Equipment and stats work together to make the overall end result. A stronger example of a build that's almost entirely made out of it's equips is instacast with cast reduction equipment. It's impossible to achieve the same results and make the build workable at all without the 3 MVP cards necessary.

Hell, instacast itself is a good example of this. I don't think it's possible to achieve instacast without at least one piece of gear that gives you dex, that doesn't include the use of gospel.

And to be fair, having any kind of demihuman reduction gear at all is gonna change your playstyle. Specially if you're into hotswapping.

Tretyal · 11-04-2008, 11:49 AM

Its a shame. The full Instacast build through cast time reductions would be such an awesome build. 190 Int, high agi to get 183 aspd, rest in vit. Easy peezy.

Epic Wizard · 11-04-2008, 11:53 AM

The thing is when you talk about build for a lot of classes you are talking about Gear. For Wizards especially gear is basically the only determining factor that differentiates between us. Yes people have different skills but generally the stats and gear are what you are talking about when you ask a Wizard about his build.

Vauron · 11-04-2008, 04:45 PM

Finally reached b99 on my Sage, thanks to Vodimier for mobbing the last 10%. Also, I wish I had remembered my angled glasses for the picture.

Now for some clonespam

profluj · 11-04-2008, 05:08 PM

@Tretyal, the reason I use Odins blessing is because I have so many characters its one armor that can be interchangeable, and I haven't been fortunate enough to get a valk armor, so I stuck with Odins.

And as for final build, I would rather have valk armor of course. As well have orleans and a sign for accesorys. And Firelock shoes(not a big concern to me because SP is decently high)

younglink27 · 11-04-2008, 05:51 PM

I see that picture of clonespammed snipers and all I can think of is Pneuma ^^

Epic Wizard · 11-05-2008, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by younglink27

I see that picture of clonespammed snipers and all I can think of is Pneuma ^^

I see clone spammed snipers, bragi, and people to soak up damage and I immediately think "Pneuma and Meteors would mop that up REALLY fast" XD

The Wizard Who Did It · 11-05-2008, 03:59 PM

Because I'm bored, I'm gonna post my build, while retaining important sekrets (I did say I was bored, right?).

And this is my current SBK build on my Sin, made using advice that Fui himself gave me.

Wonkar · 11-05-2008, 04:09 PM

Now, I don't play SBK build, but something seems off to me about that...

11-04-2008, 11:13 AM	#161
RustedAngel Troopa Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 30	I think when most people say build they are referring to stat and skill sets, not the equipment that accompanies them. Equipment enhances a build, but doesn't really change the overall play style, while stat and skill spreads do. Of course there are some equipments that can compliment builds by decreasing weaknesses like survivability or the ability to spike, but only a few items that really radically alter play style. Also, you will very nearly always be able to improve a build with some piece of equipment you don't yet have. It's one of the reasons people keep playing games, but almost always stats and skills will have a cap on there potential, it ensures everyone has a level playing field to work from. So while you can always say "Needs more x." its not really going to change the build. Also, yes your build does suck edit: baglis whatever they day im able to tell you two apart is the day hell freezes over., real men don't use upgraded equipment or bother maxing characters. They are too busy getting drunk and making love to women (who may or may not be related to you in a maternal fashion) to do any of that. __________________ GrandDivine - Oh God Imma nub (again)

11-04-2008, 11:53 AM	#164
Epic Wizard Hellball to the FACE!!!!! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: My own little world Posts: 180	The thing is when you talk about build for a lot of classes you are talking about Gear. For Wizards especially gear is basically the only determining factor that differentiates between us. Yes people have different skills but generally the stats and gear are what you are talking about when you ask a Wizard about his build. __________________ There is no overkill there is only "open fire" and "I need to reload." - Schlock Mercenary I don't need to reload Hello my name is Epic Wizard, you killed my alt, prepare to die" -Said by me to the offender's smoking corpse. Besides he can still hear me and I'll be damned if I'm going to announce myself like that BEFORE my opening shot. 98% of the internet population has a Myspace. If you're part of the 2% that doesn't, copy and paste this into your sig.

11-04-2008, 04:45 PM	#165
Vauron Herald Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 148	Finally reached b99 on my Sage, thanks to Vodimier for mobbing the last 10%. Also, I wish I had remembered my angled glasses for the picture. Now for some clonespam __________________ Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. Calvin Coolidge

11-04-2008, 05:08 PM	#166
profluj Shyguy Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 195	@Tretyal, the reason I use Odins blessing is because I have so many characters its one armor that can be interchangeable, and I haven't been fortunate enough to get a valk armor, so I stuck with Odins. And as for final build, I would rather have valk armor of course. As well have orleans and a sign for accesorys. And Firelock shoes(not a big concern to me because SP is decently high) __________________ Remember amateurs built the ark ... Professionals built the titanic I am Baglis/Melchisedek/Anauel/Leuana/Redemption/Erin Eldric Im With Nills-Kanzen Saimin Forever!

11-04-2008, 05:51 PM	#167
younglink27 Troopa Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 73	I see that picture of clonespammed snipers and all I can think of is Pneuma ^^ __________________ Badges Won: Pyro, Steelwing, Venom

11-05-2008, 03:59 PM	#169
The Wizard Who Did It The End of Evolution Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Some call it hell; I call it home. Posts: 1,822	My Builds Because I'm bored, I'm gonna post my build, while retaining important sekrets (I did say I was bored, right?). And this is my current SBK build on my Sin, made using advice that Fui himself gave me. __________________ And this world's smartest man means no more to me than does its smartest termite. ~Dr. Manhattan

11-05-2008, 04:09 PM	#170
Wonkar Dancing For Rain Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 32	Now, I don't play SBK build, but something seems off to me about that...