Fullmetal Alchemist - Page 18

ZAKtheGeek · 06-30-2010, 10:21 PM

First of all, WHO ARE YOU CALLING A SHORT LITTLE MICROBE-RIDING LAWN GNOME!??

But yeah. Indeed so. And even in general, he used up his soul. You'd think there would be more consequences. Constant ones. I mean, you just don't do that. He became his own little devil and made a bargain with himself.

Death Note, same thing. Who ever even dies of shinigamivision? Most of them get written off anyway. Souichiro died immediately anyway, and Mikami only gave up in the anime... In the manga, I believe he rot in jail for a while. And Misa is just immortal. Actually, I guess one or more of Mello's goons died naturally...? But they too lasted about a week or something.

Lithp · 07-01-2010, 07:33 AM

Misa kills herself. But the Shinigami Eye Deal is sorta pointless anyway, because it's implied that people who use the Death Note have short, tragic lives.

Actually, Death Note takes the vagueness of "life span" to the opposite extreme of everything else. If you think about it, Misa really SHOULD be borderline immortal. She got the lifespans of TWO Shinigami, one AFTER her old--& already enhanced--lifespan was halved. But she lives for what, 4-10 years after Rem dies?

ZAKtheGeek · 07-01-2010, 10:06 PM

That is neither something which definitely happens in the anime nor, do I believe, is there any such implication in the manga.

At the same time, it may be that literally gaining the remaining lifetime of a shinigami is just something the anime made up; I don't recall that wording from the manga. I think the lifetime is just supposed to get extended. It certainly doesn't make any sense.

Hm, how many death note users actually died by death note? About half, I think... It's the only thing that would make sense, if indeed their lives become short. This is because, while most people apparently live under the control of a relentless determinism where their death times are determined long beforehand, the death note seems able to throw all that aside and change things completely. Therefore, it's somewhat contradictory that a death note user's natural life span should somehow take into account such a "non-deterministic" element. Of course, I don't believe the creators thought anywhere near this hard about it.

Lithp · 07-02-2010, 10:19 AM

I'm not sure if it's actually mentioned or depicted in the main series, but Volume 13 (a guidebook) mentions that Misa killed herself.

As for the anime...she was standing at the edge of a bridge. I'm not sure what else she could have been doing, since she didn't have a fishing rod.

Also, there hasn't been much FMA out of me recently because my computer's being a prick & not letting me watch embedded videos, including FMAB.

Lithp · 07-05-2010, 04:07 PM

Fucking Hell yes, there's going to be a 2nd FMA movie!

ZAKtheGeek · 07-06-2010, 08:54 PM

Seems Fuhrers are required by law to have mustaches.

And philosophers' stones fix everything, and of course, are strewn about like candy.

Not a mention of Ed's death. That's already, more wiggle room for my fanfic.

Lithp · 07-07-2010, 02:36 AM

Marcoh's came from Al's fight with Kimblee &, before that, Kimblee himself.

Lin Yao's was the one Wrath confiscated from the doctor.

That is one thing that the finale kind of skimmed over. Father made so many of those things, so what happened to them? Did he reabsorb the ones he spread all over the country?

Brotherhood's retcon about the doll soldiers fixed those ones. All of Hohenheim's were used up.

Mind you, I still haven't seen the last 2 episodes of Brotherhood, due to my blasted computer problems.

But did you not hear me?! There's going to be a Brotherhood movie! I wonder what it'll be about...?

phil_ · 07-07-2010, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lithp

But did you not hear me?! There's going to be a Brotherhood movie! I wonder what it'll be about...?

Hardcore Al x May fucking. For two hours.

Lithp · 07-07-2010, 02:51 AM

I didn't think it was possible, but Phil has suggested an FMA plotline that I definitely do not want to see.

Premmy · 07-07-2010, 02:58 AM

You know, if there's one thing I kinda want to see, It's Al finally getting some pussy, just so something cool can happen to him in his woobie life.

06-30-2010, 10:21 PM	#171
ZAKtheGeek Worth every yenny Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: not my mind that's for sure! Posts: 1,299	First of all, WHO ARE YOU CALLING A SHORT LITTLE MICROBE-RIDING LAWN GNOME!?? But yeah. Indeed so. And even in general, he used up his soul. You'd think there would be more consequences. Constant ones. I mean, you just don't do that. He became his own little devil and made a bargain with himself. Death Note, same thing. Who ever even dies of shinigamivision? Most of them get written off anyway. Souichiro died immediately anyway, and Mikami only gave up in the anime... In the manga, I believe he rot in jail for a while. And Misa is just immortal. Actually, I guess one or more of Mello's goons died naturally...? But they too lasted about a week or something. __________________ Pyro Icon - It needs your love. I haven't looked at it in months.

07-01-2010, 07:33 AM	#172
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Misa kills herself. But the Shinigami Eye Deal is sorta pointless anyway, because it's implied that people who use the Death Note have short, tragic lives. Actually, Death Note takes the vagueness of "life span" to the opposite extreme of everything else. If you think about it, Misa really SHOULD be borderline immortal. She got the lifespans of TWO Shinigami, one AFTER her old--& already enhanced--lifespan was halved. But she lives for what, 4-10 years after Rem dies? __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.) Last edited by Lithp; 07-01-2010 at 07:36 AM.

07-01-2010, 10:06 PM	#173
ZAKtheGeek Worth every yenny Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: not my mind that's for sure! Posts: 1,299	That is neither something which definitely happens in the anime nor, do I believe, is there any such implication in the manga. At the same time, it may be that literally gaining the remaining lifetime of a shinigami is just something the anime made up; I don't recall that wording from the manga. I think the lifetime is just supposed to get extended. It certainly doesn't make any sense. Hm, how many death note users actually died by death note? About half, I think... It's the only thing that would make sense, if indeed their lives become short. This is because, while most people apparently live under the control of a relentless determinism where their death times are determined long beforehand, the death note seems able to throw all that aside and change things completely. Therefore, it's somewhat contradictory that a death note user's natural life span should somehow take into account such a "non-deterministic" element. Of course, I don't believe the creators thought anywhere near this hard about it. __________________ Pyro Icon - It needs your love. I haven't looked at it in months.

07-02-2010, 10:19 AM	#174
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	I'm not sure if it's actually mentioned or depicted in the main series, but Volume 13 (a guidebook) mentions that Misa killed herself. As for the anime...she was standing at the edge of a bridge. I'm not sure what else she could have been doing, since she didn't have a fishing rod. Also, there hasn't been much FMA out of me recently because my computer's being a prick & not letting me watch embedded videos, including FMAB. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

07-05-2010, 04:07 PM	#175
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Fucking Hell yes, there's going to be a 2nd FMA movie! __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

07-06-2010, 08:54 PM	#176
ZAKtheGeek Worth every yenny Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: not my mind that's for sure! Posts: 1,299	Seems Fuhrers are required by law to have mustaches. And philosophers' stones fix everything, and of course, are strewn about like candy. Not a mention of Ed's death. That's already, more wiggle room for my fanfic. __________________ Pyro Icon - It needs your love. I haven't looked at it in months.

07-07-2010, 02:36 AM	#177
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Marcoh's came from Al's fight with Kimblee &, before that, Kimblee himself. Lin Yao's was the one Wrath confiscated from the doctor. That is one thing that the finale kind of skimmed over. Father made so many of those things, so what happened to them? Did he reabsorb the ones he spread all over the country? Brotherhood's retcon about the doll soldiers fixed those ones. All of Hohenheim's were used up. Mind you, I still haven't seen the last 2 episodes of Brotherhood, due to my blasted computer problems. But did you not hear me?! There's going to be a Brotherhood movie! I wonder what it'll be about...? __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

07-07-2010, 02:51 AM	#179
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	I didn't think it was possible, but Phil has suggested an FMA plotline that I definitely do not want to see. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

07-07-2010, 02:58 AM	#180
Premmy Stop the hate Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a nice web on fifty first street Posts: 4,466	You know, if there's one thing I kinda want to see, It's Al finally getting some pussy, just so something cool can happen to him in his woobie life.