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Mesden · 02-14-2009, 10:27 PM

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Honestly, I just don't see DC losing this. Their heroes are all largely designed to be demigods in their own right. The Marvel universe has a lot of people who really could at least put up a good fight, but in the end most of them just don't have the raw power to stand up with the likes of Superman or entire corps of Lanterns of every color. Seriously, have you seen the shit those Blue Lantern guys can pull out of their ass? They can pretty much do whatever they want as long as they hope for it hard enough, including curing Bruce Banner if they felt it necessary.

DC pretty much has the advantage, even without bringing Superboy Prime into the equation. Because, as has been very emphatically pointed out to me, fuck Superboy Prime.

Cures make Hulk mad! :<

edit: Dammit Krylo.

Also, can't compete with superman? Really? Sentry is Superman if all of Superman's alternate subpowers (xray vision, ice breath) were actually awesome super powers that, in and of themself, quantify being a top tier superpower.

BitVyper · 02-14-2009, 10:33 PM

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I'd just like to point out here that this is considering that he knows where the psychic is, and also knows his intent. Take those two things away, and psychic gets it first, despite all the speed possible.

Fortunately, DC has its own psychics to help with bits like that. Yes though, if you hide Xavier or someone in a bunker somewhere and they're not busy dealing with Martian Manhunter, and the Flash doesn't know he's in a fight, the psychic can probably shut him down. I say "probably" because Flash has done things like jump up to superspeed reflexively the instant a bullet touched his skin. If he can do the same thing with someone intruding on his mind, then he can still likely locate them before they have a chance to do anything.

Either that, or Flash just vibrates his molecules in such a way that his brain becomes unassailable. It is still a physical thing after all.

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Also, can't compete with superman? Really? Sentry is Superman if all of Superman's alternate subpowers (xray vision, ice breath) were actually awesome super powers that, in and of themself, quantify being a top tier superpower.

Yeah, I have to agree here. Sentry is pretty firmly up in the cosmic territory. Too bad about all that mental instability. From my understanding of the character, he's as likely to be helpful in a fight as he is to be curled up into a ball sucking his thumb.

Mesden · 02-14-2009, 10:53 PM

Depends on the continuity. Sometimes he has no problem stopping people like Galactacus, other times dealing with a volcano will cause him to spaz out.

Usually, when it matters most, he's up to the job. I think the agoraphobia is what stops the entire marvel superhero list from just not doing anything and letting Sentry handle all of it.

POS Industries · 02-14-2009, 11:20 PM

Also, for every one Sentry you've got a Superman, Captain Marvel, a couple Superboys, Lex Luther hopped on venom and wearing a powersuit, and like 8 different incarnations of Supergirl.

Mesden · 02-14-2009, 11:32 PM

Well supergirl is a girl so haha.

Not sure if any of the supermen are immune to Sentry's amazing "You no longer want to fight" telepathy powers, but the reason I mention sentry is for that reason: He's stronger than the supes so they can't just bumrush him and stop his non-superman esque powers, and his non-superma esque powers are what would beat the coalition of Supermans. The only guys who stop Sentry's effects are like, Galactacus level dudes and The Hulk whenever he's like, really really really Hulking it out. Like really Hulking.

This is still, of course, all pertinent on whether Sentry feels like fighting that day. If so, he's got the ability of super ressurecting anyone he really likes if they go down, ontop of super telepathic powers and superman-or-higher level everything else (To counter eyebeams, he has 'energy and light' control!)

Fifthfiend · 02-14-2009, 11:54 PM

The problem with Sentry is there is no Sentry, there's Chaotic Evil Incarnate pretending to be a good guy because he likes that all the chump heroes have to play along with it due to being terrified of him. If you got the Sentry to use anything like any of his actual powers he'd just swap back over to evil mode and start doing indiscriminate murders at everybody. The Void wears the Sentry like a serial killer wearing a six year old girl's head as a hat.

But really I just feel if it ever came down to it, Superman would just be like hey assholes, every single one of you owes your existence to me, so all y'all just sit the goddamn down.

Mesden · 02-15-2009, 12:15 AM

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The problem with Sentry is there is no Sentry, there's Chaotic Evil Incarnate pretending to be a good guy because he likes that all the chump heroes have to play along with it due to being terrified of him. If you got the Sentry to use anything like any of his actual powers he'd just swap back over to evil mode and start doing indiscriminate murders at everybody. The Void wears the Sentry like a serial killer wearing a six year old girl's head as a hat.

I thought it was both ways? Like they both are each other and like being each other.

I mean The Void has his own set of indiscriminately ridiculous powers and he's only ever kept in check by the Sentry himself. And of course the Sentry is so goddamn powerful (million supernovas) that the only thing that stops him from being unstoppable is the crazy ass void.

I think the marvel vs dc argument is like, Sentry and Hulk vs DC's ridiculous crap.

POS Industries · 02-15-2009, 12:27 AM

On a side note, I really really really want to see an encounter between Plastic Man and Morph.

Doc ock rokc · 02-15-2009, 12:47 AM

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On a side note, I really really really want to see an encounter between Plastic Man and Morph.

In the end they are drinking at a bar best of friends...for some reason

Odjn · 02-15-2009, 01:23 AM

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I thought it was both ways? Like they both are each other and like being each other.

I mean The Void has his own set of indiscriminately ridiculous powers and he's only ever kept in check by the Sentry himself. And of course the Sentry is so goddamn powerful (million supernovas) that the only thing that stops him from being unstoppable is the crazy ass void.

I think the marvel vs dc argument is like, Sentry and Hulk vs DC's ridiculous crap.

Thanos and Doctor Doom win.

02-14-2009, 10:53 PM	#1793
Mesden There is no Toph, only Melon Lord! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inside of a box inside of a smaller box Posts: 4,310	Depends on the continuity. Sometimes he has no problem stopping people like Galactacus, other times dealing with a volcano will cause him to spaz out. Usually, when it matters most, he's up to the job. I think the agoraphobia is what stops the entire marvel superhero list from just not doing anything and letting Sentry handle all of it. __________________ I can tell you're lying.

02-14-2009, 11:20 PM	#1794
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Also, for every one Sentry you've got a Superman, Captain Marvel, a couple Superboys, Lex Luther hopped on venom and wearing a powersuit, and like 8 different incarnations of Supergirl. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

02-14-2009, 11:32 PM	#1795
Mesden There is no Toph, only Melon Lord! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inside of a box inside of a smaller box Posts: 4,310	Well supergirl is a girl so haha. Not sure if any of the supermen are immune to Sentry's amazing "You no longer want to fight" telepathy powers, but the reason I mention sentry is for that reason: He's stronger than the supes so they can't just bumrush him and stop his non-superman esque powers, and his non-superma esque powers are what would beat the coalition of Supermans. The only guys who stop Sentry's effects are like, Galactacus level dudes and The Hulk whenever he's like, really really really Hulking it out. Like really Hulking. This is still, of course, all pertinent on whether Sentry feels like fighting that day. If so, he's got the ability of super ressurecting anyone he really likes if they go down, ontop of super telepathic powers and superman-or-higher level everything else (To counter eyebeams, he has 'energy and light' control!) __________________ I can tell you're lying. Last edited by Mesden; 02-14-2009 at 11:37 PM.

02-14-2009, 11:54 PM	#1796
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	The problem with Sentry is there is no Sentry, there's Chaotic Evil Incarnate pretending to be a good guy because he likes that all the chump heroes have to play along with it due to being terrified of him. If you got the Sentry to use anything like any of his actual powers he'd just swap back over to evil mode and start doing indiscriminate murders at everybody. The Void wears the Sentry like a serial killer wearing a six year old girl's head as a hat. But really I just feel if it ever came down to it, Superman would just be like hey assholes, every single one of you owes your existence to me, so all y'all just sit the goddamn down. __________________ check out my buttspresso

02-15-2009, 12:27 AM	#1798
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	On a side note, I really really really want to see an encounter between Plastic Man and Morph. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.