READ THIS, you slack-jawed idiots, or THE NEW CONSOLE WARS, z0MG!

[ZERO.]

I would like to know two things about the ps3 and the Xbox 360

1) What is this law suit I have been hearing about with the ps3?
I was listening to a 1up.com podcast, I herd lawsuit and Sony in the same sentence.

2) I would like to know what Ubisoft was smoking when they charged 15 dollars for a fucking retarded update for G.R.A.W!?

You can tell right off that the update was not enough for a retail pack so they thought "hey lets fuck over some people in an experiment to see what people can stomach."

My own personal thoughts on the anwser for number two is the hearts of little babies and some greed.

[Mirai Gen]

Originally Posted by Azisien

Vrm, vrm!

On the subject, does anyone know what type of format the Wii will use for it's drives? Is it DVD, or are they going the path of 360/PS3 and doing a Blu-Ray and HD-DVD route?

[ZERO.]

the Wii will house a proprietary disc drive that supports a 12 centimeter DVD style discs as well as the current GameCube disc format.

I really dont think that they are going with anything new when it comes to their disks.

I could be wrong so correct me if the unthinkable happens.

[greed]

ZERO

1. The lawsuit you're referring to is probably about the Dual Shock, the PS3 doesn't have one. You see the PS1, PS2 Dual shocks and the XBOX control's rumble features were all patent violations of a rumble system made by a third party company for computer controls (Nintendo was okay because they have their own proprietry system), and this company sued Sony and Microsoft.
They beat Sony and settled with Microsoft. Microsoft then bought the company, making it impossible for Sony to settle because then their controllers would have royalties going to Microsoft. So Sony has been engaged in a string of appeals ever since.

And that's why the Wii and the 360 have rumble and the PS3 doesn't.
Not because of the last minute tilt function, because as the Wii proves, you can have much more advanced motionsensing features and a rumble in the same controller.

2. The same thing the makers of most 360 ports are, "profiteering incarnate".

[[ray.z]]

Yeh the Wii is using standard DVD's.

But that makes me wonder - what type of piracy protection has Nintendo set up for the Wii, as well as Sony and Microsoft for their respective consoles.

Cause if the Wii uses standard DVD's, it'll be heaps easier to copy than the dual-layer and blu-ray discs the XBOX 360 and PS3 will be using respectively. But even so, it won't be long till it's easy enough to be done for all three consoles.

[spazzhands]

Originally Posted by [ray.z]

Yeh the Wii is using standard DVD's.

But that makes me wonder - what type of piracy protection has Nintendo set up for the Wii, as well as Sony and Microsoft for their respective consoles.

Cause if the Wii uses standard DVD's, it'll be heaps easier to copy than the dual-layer and blu-ray discs the XBOX 360 and PS3 will be using respectively. But even so, it won't be long till it's easy enough to be done for all three consoles.

I heard that Nintendo made Gamecube so much harder to pirate by having the discs run backwards, and having the tracks move outwards rather than inwards (or inwards rather than outwards, whichever's the wierd one).

This means that its incredibly difficult to find a disc drive that would be able to make Gamecube games. Nintendo would probably do the same thing for Wii.

[MuMu]

Outward. Normal CDs and DvDs are burned from the inside, to the outside. You can see this in the CD if you use the correct angle with some light.

That would explain why I never saw a pirated gamecube game where I live...XBOX and PS2 there were lots but never saw a GC...Damn if they continue doing that I won't be able to buy a Wii >_>

[greed]

Hopefully not, they're trying to keep costs down, using standard DVDs would definitely do this, so by their current marketing plan it shouldn't be a worry Zicquall.

[Bells]

Only recently there were GC Piracy going on...

I actually hope that its harder to copy all of the next Gen games... so that the companies will start to find ways to lower the game prices... making then affordable everywhere

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Bellsouth Minion

I actually hope that its harder to copy all of the next Gen games... so that the companies will start to find ways to lower the game prices... making then affordable everywhere

Oh man, I can't decide which part of that to laugh at first.