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Viridis · 11-01-2009, 03:30 AM

I don't like the look of the 11th. (Curse you, swoop hair!) Of course, I didn't like the look of the tenth (the first I had seen was the ninth and I liked his personality), but after I saw him act I found him really, really funny. Hoping to be pleasantly surprised in the same way.

Regulus Tera · 11-01-2009, 03:45 AM

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We actually have a surprisingly strong contingent of Whovians around here. I'd say Regulus Tera's more of a Modern Whovian--he can stand the RTD-penned stuff where I get irritated by it--and I'm definitely more of an Orthodox Whovian (nothing past the first Eight, please, unless the Eleventh Doctor turns out to be really, really awesome).

I thought you liked Moffat's episodes.

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So, to keep the conversation going: Who's your favorite Doctor?

I'm gonna say the Tenth, though that's mainly 'cause he was my first Doctor. Objectively though, the Ninth is definitely a more poignant and enduring portrayal.

Classic-wise, it goes Third > Fourth > Fifth > Second > First > Eighth > Seventh > Sixth.

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Your favorite assistant?

Classic series, none except from Romana II and Leela, with Ace getting near the stand. They were all a bunch of carboard cutouts.
Modern Who, it's series three Martha > series one Rose > series four Donna > series two Rose.

BitVyper · 11-01-2009, 03:48 AM

Sylvester McCoy was my favourite Doctor, and Ace was my favourite companion. Basically, they were bother just awesome.

Rose Tyler, on the other hand, needs to die Poochie-style, with whoever is in charge of the series at the time signing a contract saying that she'll never be brought back. It's not that I dislike Billie Piper, I just can't stand Rose one bit. I didn't mind her with Eccleston, because he was less inclined to put up with her, but I HATED her with Tennant.

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RTD-penned stuff

Y'know, he's pretty good sometimes, but other times I just wonder what he's thinking. Then again, some of it might be more direction than writing.

Anyway, big bad Davies will be gone soon. He can't hurt you anymore.

I have to say though; the neo-Who definitely has some advantages over Who-classic. The classic series could get really really contrived sometimes. Especially when they got into that "end every episode on a cliffhanger" thing. Also, for all the really awesome serials, there were a lot where the writing and direction would get really awkward and clumsy.

Still, the Doctors themselves generally made up for the series' shortcomings. The first three were fantastic. I'm not a huge fan of the fourth, but I love the fifth. Never saw the sixth, but I like the idea of the Valeyard. The seventh is my favourite just he's the one who seemed the most like he was perceiving things on a whole different level - he kind of reminds me of how Terranigma's Ark was involved in everyone's personal quests, but everyone else was completely oblivious to the fact that he was rebuilding the world around them. The seventh Doctor was playing a whole different game from everyone else.

I couldn't stand the movie, so I never really got to know the eighth. I like the ninth more and more as time passes, and the tenth is a lot of fun when he's being written well. And when he is far far away from Rose Tyler

Viridis · 11-01-2009, 03:54 AM

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I thought you liked Moffat's episodes.

I, to interject, both love and despise Moffat's stuff. Mostly because it's terrifying. I'm fairly certain he hates viewers and wishes to distress them. And then they made him head writer!
:gonk:/

Are you my mummy?
Hey, who turned out the lights?

Regulus Tera · 11-01-2009, 03:55 AM

For all my love of Moffat I fucking hated Silence in the Library/The Forest of the Dead.

Mainly for the same reason I hated Metal Gear Solid 4: they are scripted in such a way that it's obvious the writer is sucking his fans' dicks.

Professor Smarmiarty · 11-01-2009, 04:06 AM

Rose is in a different universe living happily with the half-human clone of the Doctor which really seems like a story end. It would be pretty tacky to bring her back especially because new doctor and she'd have to go all get to know him again.

BitVyper · 11-01-2009, 04:06 AM

I just didn't like the future chick. Honestly, I think I have issues with any companion who has some kind of romance with the Doctor. It's just.... eugh... like nails on a chalk board.... although I didn't mind it with Madame de Pompadour for some reason.

I just realised that I want to see Ace and Jack Harkness as the Doctor's companions at the same time. I can't think of a more awesome team than Harkness, the Doctor, and Ace.

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Rose is in a different universe living happily with the half-human clone of the Doctor which really seems like a story end. It would be pretty tacky to bring her back especially because new doctor and she'd have to go all get to know him again.

If you think good taste would stop them, you obviously didn't see the three Dalek-based season finales in four years.

Although to be fair, all of those were actually pretty good...

Still, I don't trust them not to drag Rose back into the series. Hell, having her own version of the Doctor just gives her a plot hook.

**Satan's Onion** · 11-01-2009, 04:10 AM

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For all my love of Moffat I fucking hated Silence in the Library/The Forest of the Dead.

Mainly for the same reason I hated Metal Gear Solid 4: they are scripted in such a way that it's obvious the writer is sucking his fans' dicks.

That the one where the Doctor actually said "Do you know who I am?" like he's a local politician who thinks he's getting bad service at a restaurant? 'Cos if it is, then yeah, fuck it.

But you're right, I did like the Moffat eps of New Who best. It's just that they're like islands of sanity in a sea of "Oh Rose, my love, my only!" "Oh, Dock-taarh, I totes lurve you too!" If she could just die on the way back to her not-home dimension (and take her sub-fanfic-plot-contrivance Doctor with her), that'd be just awesome.

Archbio · 11-01-2009, 04:11 AM

I basically like Moffat stories and I prefer Tenth Doctor. I haven't seen enough of the older series for that last bit to mean anything though.

Davies is really just awful most of the time, with the dime store epic stuff and the Daleks being utterly wiped from history every time they appear.

Midnight worked, though.

Edit: Hey, the Library episodes were mostly good. It's not like the Tenth doctor isn't doing the "do you know who I am?" shtick every other episode.

BitVyper · 11-01-2009, 04:14 AM

To be fair - and it hurts me to say anything nice about Rose - she's still a step up from a lot of the Doctor's classic female companions, a large portion of whom existed for the sole purpose of screaming.

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That the one where the Doctor actually said "Do you know who I am?"

Well, I don't recall him saying THAT, but what he DID do kind of made sense... except that Time Lords are the stuff of legends and aren't supposed to exist as far as the new series is concerned, so I'm not sure what exactly was in the library about him.

I didn't like the way it ended either. I mean haven't we learned by now that immortality as a computer program always ends up sucking? Just learn to accept death, man.

11-01-2009, 04:11 AM	#19
Archbio Data is Turned On Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,980	I basically like Moffat stories and I prefer Tenth Doctor. I haven't seen enough of the older series for that last bit to mean anything though. Davies is really just awful most of the time, with the dime store epic stuff and the Daleks being utterly wiped from history every time they appear. Midnight worked, though. Edit: Hey, the Library episodes were mostly good. It's not like the Tenth doctor isn't doing the "do you know who I am?" shtick every other episode. __________________ 6201 Reasons to Support Electoral Reform.

11-01-2009, 03:30 AM	#11
Viridis oh, what fun we will have! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 1,773	I don't like the look of the 11th. (Curse you, swoop hair!) Of course, I didn't like the look of the tenth (the first I had seen was the ninth and I liked his personality), but after I saw him act I found him really, really funny. Hoping to be pleasantly surprised in the same way.

11-01-2009, 03:55 AM	#15
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	For all my love of Moffat I fucking hated Silence in the Library/The Forest of the Dead. Mainly for the same reason I hated Metal Gear Solid 4: they are scripted in such a way that it's obvious the writer is sucking his fans' dicks.

11-01-2009, 04:06 AM	#16
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	Rose is in a different universe living happily with the half-human clone of the Doctor which really seems like a story end. It would be pretty tacky to bring her back especially because new doctor and she'd have to go all get to know him again.