Hotmail Issues. - Page 2

Hatake Kakashi · 06-25-2005, 10:17 PM

ROFL! That shit is great, yo!

Props dude. I laughed my ass off when I saw all that was on that site.

***RaiRai*** · 06-26-2005, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Link1209

It checks to see whether the mail server the email is from is a spam server, if I read it correctly.

No, it means if the email does not use Microsofts specific email protocols then the email is blocked at the server level. This means that it's not only spam mail that gets blocked, but possibly legitimate mail as well.

Deathosaurus Wrecks · 06-26-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai

No, it means if the email does not use Microsofts specific email protocols then the email is blocked at the server level. This means that it's not only spam mail that gets blocked, but possibly legitimate mail as well.

haha, so all spammers have to do is get a Microsoft protocall mail server to do thier buisness. so MS gains another source of revinue by selling them to spammers, we still get spam, but not legitimate email. everybody wins. except us.

Kikuichimonji · 06-26-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai

No, it means if the email does not use Microsofts specific email protocols then the email is blocked at the server level. This means that it's not only spam mail that gets blocked, but possibly legitimate mail as well.

I blame my failure to read correctly on a stupid product and a confusing article >.<

Zweihander · 06-26-2005, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai

No, it means if the email does not use Microsofts specific email protocols then the email is blocked at the server level. This means that it's not only spam mail that gets blocked, but possibly legitimate mail as well.

Yes and no. If it doesn't use Sender Id, then yes, that will happen. If it does use Sender ID, and it doesn't match up with the records for that domain, then it will be blocked at the server level. So you're both mostly wrong in terms of actual technology, but right in parts of the general idea.

It's not even a good method if fighting spam, though it works well as an anti-forgery device.

What's really nice is that these things break email forwarding, and various mailing lists. Good thing Microsoft is forcing yet another of their "standards" that doesn't work well with everyone else. For more innovation, see every version of IE, MS Office, hell, just about everything they put out.

If you use hotmail and would like to switch to something else, Yahoo! has free email services and Gmail users have tons of invites. I think I still have 50 invites.

***RaiRai*** · 06-27-2005, 01:39 AM

Zwei, I found that first part to be slightly rude. Just because I didn't explain the specifics didn't mean that the overall post wasn't correct. In fact, the first post in the thread explains that it's because of the Sender ID issue that this whole debate arose in the first place.

Cloud Strife · 06-27-2005, 05:01 PM

Hm, sounds like we'll be getting a lot of angry customers calling in demanding to know why they can't send emails to their friends.

*works for MSN and is saddened by that fact* >_<

But yeah, this isn't a good idea on Microsoft's part. It's more than likely that there will be a shift in usage over to Yahoo and Gmail. Or at least a lot less people using MSN Messenger with a hotmail and/or MSN email address.

Which reminds me, those that have MSN email addresses will also be affected by this, as the emails are run through the Hotmail servers. Joy. ><

***RaiRai*** · 06-28-2005, 01:50 AM

I was actually considering working for Microsoft as a basic data typist, as they've been advertising for a certain section for a long time. But I'm not so sure I want to now. It just feels a little hypocritical to be annoyed at their services and then 9-5 at their offices. Heh.

AtomiKnight · 06-30-2005, 03:03 PM

How much does a job like that pay? I'm still in high school and have no idea what I want for a career later in life, and I was thinking about a programmer of some sort, but I don't know, I've also thought about engineer, doctor, lab chemist, etc., and I have too much of a gnat-like attention span to focus on anything.

Raerlynn · 06-30-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiRai

I was actually considering working for Microsoft as a basic data typist, as they've been advertising for a certain section for a long time. But I'm not so sure I want to now. It just feels a little hypocritical to be annoyed at their services and then 9-5 at their offices. Heh.

Not in the slightest. I speak out against my parent company's decisions. All the time. Even in front of customers. The important thing is they fill my check.

06-27-2005, 01:39 AM	#16
*RaiRai* Check mate. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Down your pants. Posts: 2,210	Zwei, I found that first part to be slightly rude. Just because I didn't explain the specifics didn't mean that the overall post wasn't correct. In fact, the first post in the thread explains that it's because of the Sender ID issue that this whole debate arose in the first place. __________________ I AM FURIOUS

06-27-2005, 05:01 PM	#17
Cloud Strife Stranger in a strange land. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Walla Walla, WA. Posts: 2,846	Hm, sounds like we'll be getting a lot of angry customers calling in demanding to know why they can't send emails to their friends. works for MSN and is saddened by that fact >_< But yeah, this isn't a good idea on Microsoft's part. It's more than likely that there will be a shift in usage over to Yahoo and Gmail. Or at least a lot less people using MSN Messenger with a hotmail and/or MSN email address. Which reminds me, those that have MSN email addresses will also be affected by this, as the emails are run through the Hotmail servers. Joy. >< __________________ You know, I'd put up something witty and clever right now, but eh. I'm lazy.

06-28-2005, 01:50 AM	#18
*RaiRai* Check mate. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Down your pants. Posts: 2,210	I was actually considering working for Microsoft as a basic data typist, as they've been advertising for a certain section for a long time. But I'm not so sure I want to now. It just feels a little hypocritical to be annoyed at their services and then 9-5 at their offices. Heh. __________________ I AM FURIOUS

06-30-2005, 03:03 PM	#19
AtomiKnight Troopa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Vanishing Point Posts: 44	How much does a job like that pay? I'm still in high school and have no idea what I want for a career later in life, and I was thinking about a programmer of some sort, but I don't know, I've also thought about engineer, doctor, lab chemist, etc., and I have too much of a gnat-like attention span to focus on anything. __________________ I offer no apology or explanation for this signature.