Nuke's dad - Page 2

Kurosen · 02-17-2006, 02:52 PM

To clarify snes, Nuke was never intended to "fight in" Ragnarok. Odin already knew how Ragnarok would happen because all the gods were fated to play their roles in it. Loki was of the opinion that Odin went a little mad over the years (perhaps it was the other way around, maybe a little of both). Loki wasn't ready to "give up" and let Ragnarok happen. So he created/sired/whatever Arel and hid him from fate so that his role in Ragnarok would be undetermined. He planned for Arel to start Ragnarok before it was "supposed" to happen, thereby breaking the fate that chained the gods.

thenewyellowdart · 02-17-2006, 05:25 PM

yeah... i guess i just suck... i thought i remembered him bringing up posiedon one time i guess i was wrong sorry for misdirection

snes · 02-17-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurosen

To clarify snes, *colored text*.

yeah its been months since i read the book, i forgot those details.

doodle · 02-19-2006, 03:52 AM

If Nuke was fire, what element is Nihel?

Chrismith · 02-19-2006, 02:00 PM

Nuke wasn't exactly fire, he drew his power from the stars. And Nihel drew his power from reality, if I remember correctly.

Chipper173 · 02-19-2006, 02:08 PM

I thought he was fire. After all, isn't Arel the true name of fire?

Kurosen · 02-19-2006, 03:38 PM

It was, but that's because it sounds more mystical/powerful/interesting than fussion or electromagnetic radiation. So Chrismith is right.

doodle · 02-19-2006, 08:22 PM

Yeah, it makes more sense to have Arel be the manifestation of pure yang, and Nihel be pure yin (although a true yin's manifestation should be female)

Sharmandra · 01-29-2007, 03:42 PM

So how did Loki not know that his destiny was to have a child "hidden" from Fate, and it was Nukes fate to "break" Fate and start Ragnarok early. SO wouldn't it be Nuke's fate to fight Nihel? Also, when we say Fate, is it like, they were meant to do it, or is it like (what I gathered from what Nihel said when he attacked Rachel and Sparky) even if he doesn't want to an invisible force makes him do it.

Kurosen · 01-30-2007, 11:29 AM

Well, who knows how rational Loki is, or was when he came up with this scheme.

As to the "how" of Fate, it's a bit more subtle than that. It's more like your present and future acts are already determined based on what's already happened. It doesn't really matter what you "want" to do, things are going to happen the way they happen.

02-19-2006, 02:00 PM	#15
Chrismith Good news, everyone! Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 65	Nuke wasn't exactly fire, he drew his power from the stars. And Nihel drew his power from reality, if I remember correctly. __________________ Everyone's always in favor of saving Hitler's brain, but when you put it in the body of a Great White shark� oh, suddenly you've gone too far!

02-19-2006, 08:22 PM	#18
doodle ____________ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 89	Yeah, it makes more sense to have Arel be the manifestation of pure yang, and Nihel be pure yin (although a true yin's manifestation should be female) Last edited by doodle; 02-19-2006 at 08:24 PM. Reason: typo

02-17-2006, 05:25 PM	#12
thenewyellowdart Goomba Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15	yeah... i guess i just suck... i thought i remembered him bringing up posiedon one time i guess i was wrong sorry for misdirection

02-19-2006, 03:52 AM	#14
doodle ____________ Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 89	If Nuke was fire, what element is Nihel?

02-19-2006, 02:08 PM	#16
Chipper173 Grandma threw away my animes Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hang a left at the deli. Posts: 858	I thought he was fire. After all, isn't Arel the true name of fire?

01-29-2007, 03:42 PM	#19
Sharmandra Troopa Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 27	So how did Loki not know that his destiny was to have a child "hidden" from Fate, and it was Nukes fate to "break" Fate and start Ragnarok early. SO wouldn't it be Nuke's fate to fight Nihel? Also, when we say Fate, is it like, they were meant to do it, or is it like (what I gathered from what Nihel said when he attacked Rachel and Sparky) even if he doesn't want to an invisible force makes him do it.