#780: "Clearly I didn't kill you enough!" - Page 2

Furioku · 12-09-2006, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FighterFlight

I still say that NOT AKBAR fulfilled his responsibilities and, by whatever means, got them to the forest of Leifein, which explains why Thief can't find the ratbag, pushes the plot forward in a surreal/confusing/somewhat humorous way, saves NOT AKBAR's neck, and, finally, can be attributed to RMs genius and string of well deserved successes.

Where does it say that this is the forest of Leifein? o_O

Ryong · 12-09-2006, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Furioku

Where does it say that this is the forest of Leifein? o_O

Yeah, besides, they already were in a forest before meeting not Akbar.

Ytoabn · 12-09-2006, 08:29 AM

If anyone wants an answer to that riddle of one person who only tells lies, and one who only tells truths (and there are multiple answers):
A good thing to try is to snap your fingers in front of them, then ask them if you just snapped your fingers. Truth guy says yes, liar says no.

Of course, Theif weaves his lies and truths so well that its impossible to tell what has actually just happened.

Also, someone previously said this is the first time Theif has caused BM pain out of spite rather than for profit, but I argue that Theif DID find Not Akbar and get his money back. He trusts Fighter to be too stupid to realize it, Red Mage is too focused on moving forward, and now BM is so wrapped up in the riddles and Fighter-rage he won't bother Theif either.

Furioku · 12-09-2006, 10:04 AM

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Also, someone previously said this is the first time Theif has caused BM pain out of spite rather than for profit, but I argue that Theif DID find Not Akbar and get his money back. He trusts Fighter to be too stupid to realize it, Red Mage is too focused on moving forward, and now BM is so wrapped up in the riddles and Fighter-rage he won't bother Theif either.

Wow. Theif's a genius. But then again, they all are, in there own way, really. Now you got me thinking that Theif actually did find Not Akbar as well. cause this theory seems logical.

SykoJul · 12-09-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ytoabn

Also, someone previously said this is the first time Theif has caused BM pain out of spite rather than for profit, but I argue that Theif DID find Not Akbar and get his money back. He trusts Fighter to be too stupid to realize it, Red Mage is too focused on moving forward, and now BM is so wrapped up in the riddles and Fighter-rage he won't bother Theif either.

I think Theif found Not Akbar too... If he hadn't, he probably wouldn't have brought it up. He doesn't seem like the kind to bring up his own faults...and that leads to your opinion, which is also beleivable and proven to be possible. XD [sigh] They are quite predictable sometimes, aren't they...? Your first paragraph amuses me too. I think Theif is the one who wins in this comic...

PCD · 12-09-2006, 03:37 PM

That riddle's easy. Ask them which one is wearing a tophat. The one who says he is, even though he is not (Or, if he is wearing one, and says he isn't), is clearly the liar.

On another note, Thief is badass.

Lux · 12-09-2006, 07:37 PM

I love this comic. I just wanted to say that. And that it's nice to see Fighter acting... Fighterish again. I don't think Thief caught Akbar. Unless Akbar is as impervious to damage as the Light Warriors, he wouldn't be coming back from the experience. And he has to come back of course. Where else are they going to buy crappy death-traps that will invariably fail on them?

Krylo · 12-09-2006, 08:28 PM

Um... in the riddle you're only allowed one question. Thus if you ask them which is wearing a tophat or something stupid like that, you'll never find out the answer the actual question (which in the riddle is which way to go).

Here, the riddle is worded like this: You need to get to a hospital and come to a fork in the road, one route leads to a hospital one to the middle of nowhere. On the fork are two twin brothers who are notorious because one always tells lies and the other always the truth. You can only ask one of them one question, or the two will simply refuse to answer any more questions.

So what do you ask them?

The answer is: Which way would the other tell me to go?

If you asked the liar he will tell you the other would tell you to go the wrong way, because the other (being honest) would tell you the right way, thus he is lying.

If you asked the honest one he would ALSO tell you to go the wrong way because the other (being a liar) would tell you to go the wrong way, thus he is telling the truth.

So either way you go the opposite direction and you'll make your way to the hospital.

PyrosNine · 12-09-2006, 11:48 PM

Seems like more than just I have spent days reading detective books and logic puzzles, and that particular one is my favorite.

And there are variations too. That's merely a simple one, the hard ones when vampires and lunatics are thrown in, Where lunatics are always wrong, but can't lie, and vampires are both wrong and lie, and you have to deduce who is sane, not a vampire, and telling the truth.

The deduction will usually take a paragraph to explain in full detail, and by the end of it you'll not understand a word of it but yet feel smarter.

Those of lesser constitutions will have their heads will explode.

Here's one. You enter a insane asylum to find an imprisoned king, and find out that he's in a room with two other inmates. You enter the room, where all three look a bit like the king. You ask quite bluntly "Which of you is the king?", wasting your question without thought. The men reply:

The first man says "I am the king, and the other two are insane."

The second man says "I'm sane but the first man's the king."

The third man says "If I am sane, then I am the king."

Put that in your pipe and set it on fire!

On topic though, Thief normally doesn't lie to his own partners as much as he lies to everyone else in the world, so I assume he wasn't lying about Akbar. furthermore, Akbar is a jerk, which means it's very likely he got away scot-free and is rolling in the gold naked somewhere outside the woods. Moreover, Thief is only pretending to lie to mess with BM's head, because Thief is also a jerk. And so, Thief is lying about lying to BM.

DarkLadyNyara · 12-09-2006, 11:49 PM

Wow. Theif and Fighter are in top form. I'd pity Black Mage if it wasn't so funny watching him suffer.

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I think this is the first time Thief has made BM suffer out of spite and not our of greed.

Yeah, this is the first time I remember seeing that, too. But really, the attempted killings are Theifs fault to begin with.

12-09-2006, 08:29 AM	#13
Ytoabn Troopa Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 51	If anyone wants an answer to that riddle of one person who only tells lies, and one who only tells truths (and there are multiple answers): A good thing to try is to snap your fingers in front of them, then ask them if you just snapped your fingers. Truth guy says yes, liar says no. Of course, Theif weaves his lies and truths so well that its impossible to tell what has actually just happened. Also, someone previously said this is the first time Theif has caused BM pain out of spite rather than for profit, but I argue that Theif DID find Not Akbar and get his money back. He trusts Fighter to be too stupid to realize it, Red Mage is too focused on moving forward, and now BM is so wrapped up in the riddles and Fighter-rage he won't bother Theif either. __________________ Tame Any Monster in Scribblenauts 101 Movies I Need to See

12-09-2006, 08:28 PM	#18
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Um... in the riddle you're only allowed one question. Thus if you ask them which is wearing a tophat or something stupid like that, you'll never find out the answer the actual question (which in the riddle is which way to go). Here, the riddle is worded like this: You need to get to a hospital and come to a fork in the road, one route leads to a hospital one to the middle of nowhere. On the fork are two twin brothers who are notorious because one always tells lies and the other always the truth. You can only ask one of them one question, or the two will simply refuse to answer any more questions. So what do you ask them? The answer is: Which way would the other tell me to go? If you asked the liar he will tell you the other would tell you to go the wrong way, because the other (being honest) would tell you the right way, thus he is lying. If you asked the honest one he would ALSO tell you to go the wrong way because the other (being a liar) would tell you to go the wrong way, thus he is telling the truth. So either way you go the opposite direction and you'll make your way to the hospital. __________________ I am very tired.

12-09-2006, 11:48 PM	#19
PyrosNine Zettai Hero Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A figment of my own imagination Posts: 6,103	Seems like more than just I have spent days reading detective books and logic puzzles, and that particular one is my favorite. And there are variations too. That's merely a simple one, the hard ones when vampires and lunatics are thrown in, Where lunatics are always wrong, but can't lie, and vampires are both wrong and lie, and you have to deduce who is sane, not a vampire, and telling the truth. The deduction will usually take a paragraph to explain in full detail, and by the end of it you'll not understand a word of it but yet feel smarter. Those of lesser constitutions will have their heads will explode. Here's one. You enter a insane asylum to find an imprisoned king, and find out that he's in a room with two other inmates. You enter the room, where all three look a bit like the king. You ask quite bluntly "Which of you is the king?", wasting your question without thought. The men reply: The first man says "I am the king, and the other two are insane." The second man says "I'm sane but the first man's the king." The third man says "If I am sane, then I am the king." Put that in your pipe and set it on fire! On topic though, Thief normally doesn't lie to his own partners as much as he lies to everyone else in the world, so I assume he wasn't lying about Akbar. furthermore, Akbar is a jerk, which means it's very likely he got away scot-free and is rolling in the gold naked somewhere outside the woods. Moreover, Thief is only pretending to lie to mess with BM's head, because Thief is also a jerk. And so, Thief is lying about lying to BM. __________________ Pyrosnine.blogspot.com: An experimental blog of writing. Updated possibly daily. Possibly. A fair chance. Current Works for reading: War Between them, Karma Police. PyrosNine: Weirdo Magnet Extraordinaire!

12-09-2006, 07:37 PM	#17
Lux Vicious Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The other side of Jupiter Posts: 38	I love this comic. I just wanted to say that. And that it's nice to see Fighter acting... Fighterish again. I don't think Thief caught Akbar. Unless Akbar is as impervious to damage as the Light Warriors, he wouldn't be coming back from the experience. And he has to come back of course. Where else are they going to buy crappy death-traps that will invariably fail on them?