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Kurosen · 02-18-2004, 02:40 AM

I just don't see what the problem is. So he uses some names used in Square games. Who cares? My comic goes way further than that and it doesn't bug the big S-E.

Ranson · 02-18-2004, 08:09 AM

I think the point they're making is that your work falls under parody, while this book, regardless of what it actually is (I can't comment, having only glanced at the site) has a few elements that smell of a rip-off. You credit S-E for the characters, whereas this author seems to be lifting details(at least names and places) directly from that source without crediting or, likely, permission. Again, having not read the book, I can't comment on the veracity of this. I'm just trying to clarify the points I'm seeing.

Starbuck_II · 02-18-2004, 08:09 AM

That is because S-E does'nt want to upset Black Mage, they fear him

It looks pretty Interesting, Kain seems to be like the "bad" guy seem, while Cecil again is on the "good" guy team.
Kain isn't a Dragoon but a Dark Knight (like he was suppose to be in FF4 but chose his Father's path instead. Cecil is a White mage, but oh well he still seems cool.
Sounds like a interesting book.

02-18-2004, 09:24 AM

Not only that, Kurosen, but you aren't using your comic to turn a mandatory buck. At most, you might ask for the occasional donation, right? That doesn't seem to be the case with Branford - he's put a price on his work. It'd be somewhat akin to someone taking bits and pieces of your comic, something that you worked for, and putting them in a book and selling them without telling you.

I dunno, if I were you, I'd be a little ticked.

02-18-2004, 09:56 AM

Honestly,
Authors use the names of characters and places from other sources all the time. It may be right, it may be wrong, but it is common. Most do it so that readers will have an extra angle of insight into the development of the book and its characters. Branford can deny the connection all he wants, just like when Pink Flloyd says that Dark Side of the Moon doesn't line up with the Wizard of Oz, and there is really nothing we could do other than not read his book.
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I confused myself. I need to stop talking before I make a fool of myself.

#@��$ · 02-18-2004, 10:11 AM

C'mon, RPG World has A LOT of S-E references:
- The "Hero" is clearly Cloud.
- You can change the names of the characters
- Dragobo = Chocobo
- Howard = Moogle

And I'm too lazy for the anothers. The fact is that RPG World sells its book and S-E doesn't cares. Or maybe S-E can't do anything. Or maybe they like it. Or maybe they are going to sue them tomorrow. Or maybe I should stop typing. Or maybe you should stop reading.

Kain S. Branford · 02-18-2004, 01:22 PM

Well, well, this is interesting...

I do have a bit of a retort for all of this listed in the form of a slight rant on my page's News section. Be assured, I'm not really surprised by all this. I find it a bit amusing, actually. For those of you who have future concerns--which there will doubtlessly be some--let me know and I might accomidate you.

02-18-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kain S. Branford

Well, well, this is interesting...

I do have a bit of a retort for all of this listed in the form of a slight rant on my page's News section. Be assured, I'm not really surprised by all this. I find it a bit amusing, actually. For those of you who have future concerns--which there will doubtlessly be some--let me know and I might accomidate you.

Good retort. That's exactly what I've been trying to say, but I couldn't do it as well for having no knowledge of you, your writing style or your book. I encourage everyone reading this to support struggling writers like Mr. Branford- and buy Brian's book when it comes out- and other writers that may choose to advertise on nuklearpower...

Ranson · 02-18-2004, 02:50 PM

Yes, a very good response.

And, as always, the only bad publicity is no publicity. Good luck with the book, and I hope it does well. You're farther along than most people who try their hand, and that's the best way to succeed.

MFD · 02-18-2004, 04:05 PM

My guess is that Ascension is an unnofficial Final Fantasy. Just go with it. I'm pretty sure Kain Branford's a pseudonym, too. KAIN Highwind and Terra BRANFORD connecting his two favorite FFs pretty well.

02-18-2004, 08:09 AM	#12
Ranson Don't make me hurt you! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salisbury, NC Posts: 57	I think the point they're making is that your work falls under parody, while this book, regardless of what it actually is (I can't comment, having only glanced at the site) has a few elements that smell of a rip-off. You credit S-E for the characters, whereas this author seems to be lifting details(at least names and places) directly from that source without crediting or, likely, permission. Again, having not read the book, I can't comment on the veracity of this. I'm just trying to clarify the points I'm seeing. __________________ I'm not lazy, I just suffer from premature entropy. Cancer: (June 22�July 22) You're easy to talk to once people get to know you, but holding your personal audiences on a throne of bloody skulls tends to put them off at first.

02-18-2004, 08:09 AM	#13
Starbuck_II Paladin, I like swordz 2 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Portsmouth, Virginia Posts: 119	That is because S-E does'nt want to upset Black Mage, they fear him It looks pretty Interesting, Kain seems to be like the "bad" guy seem, while Cecil again is on the "good" guy team. Kain isn't a Dragoon but a Dark Knight (like he was suppose to be in FF4 but chose his Father's path instead. Cecil is a White mage, but oh well he still seems cool. Sounds like a interesting book. __________________ "With the power of Conviction there is no Sacrifice!" "Power is not for yourserf, it is for others. If you have to power to help another it should be your duty to help them. That is what I think and that is what I follow. But then again I am only a Spoony bard, who are you?" Chris, my bard in Soul Fire

02-18-2004, 02:50 PM	#19
Ranson Don't make me hurt you! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Salisbury, NC Posts: 57	Yes, a very good response. And, as always, the only bad publicity is no publicity. Good luck with the book, and I hope it does well. You're farther along than most people who try their hand, and that's the best way to succeed. __________________ I'm not lazy, I just suffer from premature entropy. Cancer: (June 22�July 22) You're easy to talk to once people get to know you, but holding your personal audiences on a throne of bloody skulls tends to put them off at first.

02-18-2004, 04:05 PM	#20
MFD THWIP! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,626	My guess is that Ascension is an unnofficial Final Fantasy. Just go with it. I'm pretty sure Kain Branford's a pseudonym, too. KAIN Highwind and Terra BRANFORD connecting his two favorite FFs pretty well. __________________ And The Lord did curse Caine for his sin, for by The Lord blood may only be repaid in sparkly glitter. - DFM 11:30

02-18-2004, 02:40 AM	#11
Kurosen Hmph, what a waste of words. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,071	I just don't see what the problem is. So he uses some names used in Square games. Who cares? My comic goes way further than that and it doesn't bug the big S-E.

02-18-2004, 09:24 AM	#14
Sonata Guest Posts: n/a	Not only that, Kurosen, but you aren't using your comic to turn a mandatory buck. At most, you might ask for the occasional donation, right? That doesn't seem to be the case with Branford - he's put a price on his work. It'd be somewhat akin to someone taking bits and pieces of your comic, something that you worked for, and putting them in a book and selling them without telling you. I dunno, if I were you, I'd be a little ticked.

02-18-2004, 09:56 AM	#15
Ghost Who Walks Guest Posts: n/a	Honestly, Authors use the names of characters and places from other sources all the time. It may be right, it may be wrong, but it is common. Most do it so that readers will have an extra angle of insight into the development of the book and its characters. Branford can deny the connection all he wants, just like when Pink Flloyd says that Dark Side of the Moon doesn't line up with the Wizard of Oz, and there is really nothing we could do other than not read his book. ... I confused myself. I need to stop talking before I make a fool of myself.

02-18-2004, 10:11 AM	#16
#@��$ #@��$ SMASH! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45	C'mon, RPG World has A LOT of S-E references: - The "Hero" is clearly Cloud. - You can change the names of the characters - Dragobo = Chocobo - Howard = Moogle And I'm too lazy for the anothers. The fact is that RPG World sells its book and S-E doesn't cares. Or maybe S-E can't do anything. Or maybe they like it. Or maybe they are going to sue them tomorrow. Or maybe I should stop typing. Or maybe you should stop reading.

02-18-2004, 01:22 PM	#17
Kain S. Branford Troopa Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: A few steps near the edge Posts: 58	Well, well, this is interesting... I do have a bit of a retort for all of this listed in the form of a slight rant on my page's News section. Be assured, I'm not really surprised by all this. I find it a bit amusing, actually. For those of you who have future concerns--which there will doubtlessly be some--let me know and I might accomidate you.